ok heres my best idea for a thread this year. what is the worst case fake or forgery you have seen this year. mine was a ss dagger 1936 (i think)with matching scabbard and chain. it turned out the maker and rbm number were never made, odd thing was the seller lived 20 miles north of me and i was interested in buying an ss dagger at that time. he never returned any of my emails, but he finally sold it for 3000 or so to some poor guy in russia. its a darn shame we can't do more to get these fakers out of the business.i just put in a bid on a german police helmet that looks good but who knows . the seller says he guarantees a ok and not messed with but who knows. i shudder when i read the shotgun news withn 39.95 helmets for sale etc. perhaps this is an area where the law needs to get involved? anyway i'll let you know if i win the helmet and if it turns out to be real. god i hope so for the money i bid. oh by the way happy christmas to all . its nice to be in florida this time of year. so post your observations so we can get better enlightened.
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Dear Sirs,
K98 rilfes marked SSZZA4.....I have seen lots of crap and only four I KNOW to be right. All came from Czech Police stores in the 1960's for a few dollars each, via the back door shall we say.
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The worst I've seen is a French MAB D marked with a WaffenAmt being auctioned on GunBoard, touted as produced for German forces during the occupation of France. This particular pistol not only had the wrong WaffenAmt and lacked some of the correct French markings for a WWII MAB D, but was actually a MAB D Type 2, a design not made before mid-June of 1945, after the liberation of France and MAB returning to making the model D for the French military.
The seller was not pleased when I informed him that his pistol had certain "difficulties".
Trickier are the "enhanced" French 1935-A pistols, since there was no difference between those made for the French army before and after the German occupation and those made for the German military during the occupation. Fortunately the correct s/n ranges are well established and available in standard references, so when one shows up with a WaffenAmt and a post-occupation s/n ....
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Hi, two Beretta MAB 38A with WaAA60 on them. The worse of two was a mixture of german MAB 38/42 and "rumanian contract"; the other was a "rumanian contract" of 1940 with waAA60.Comment
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I've been offered a nickled Luger that was a "paratrooper's model" as well as a nickled CZ27 that was an "officer's model". There's a guy now on an auction site selling a Hitler Youth armband which he has "proof" belonged to Hilter. I think his starting bid is $2,800.00Comment
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this has nothing to do with WWII arms but there is a guy selling an old magazine from the "private collection of orville wright" for 7,500,000
and not only does he have certificate of authenticity he has a sheet! I mean it is on craigs list. it must be legit
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There was a "K" date luger or two floating around the midwest a couple years ago with the "K" in the wromg script.
I saw one at a show and I believe there was another or two reported.MLPComment
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hard to find item
A guy on ebay had "hitlers mustache"
embalmed in a pickle jar a couple years ago for 8k starting bid. sadly, I regret now that I didnt follow the auction to see the end result.
for worst weapon forgeries, the most pathetic thing I have seen was a reenactor with a turkish mauser complete with 'kwick-view' see-through sites and a tasco scope trying to pass himself off as an SS sniper at a living history event. mercifully he had the abomination sort of wrapped up in burlap "camoflage" ...... but a gem like that just shouldnt be hidden.Comment
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man, that is pretty bad about the hitler's mustache, lol what next his ball's in a jar? But it really amazes me to see folks actually bidding on the stuff.Originally posted by Ben R View PostA guy on ebay had "hitlers mustache" embalmed in a pickle jar a couple years ago for 8k starting bid. sadly, I regret now that I didnt follow the auction to see the end result.
for worst weapon forgeries, the most pathetic thing I have seen was a reenactor with a turkish mauser complete with 'kwick-view' see-through sites and a tasco scope trying to pass himself off as an SS sniper at a living history event. mercifully he had the abomination sort of wrapped up in burlap "camoflage" ...... but a gem like that just shouldnt be hidden.Comment
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Seriously I could write a book on this thread topic. Too many to list!!!
They're all bad in my opinion!
Matt
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Here is a link to a fake that I saw over a year ago. It is incredible work and fooled a very advanced collector/dealer.
http://lmd-militaria.com/page0137.html
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Leon,
That one is very well done. Someone spent a good deal of time on that. I've heard that there are guys who have an engraver that can re-produce the proof markings like that. You almost have to use a microscope to tell the difference!
Matt
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Matt,
In this case, the markings are too distinct and the markings are not correct based on where they are located. It looks like they got the firing proof and the waffenamt on the right side of the barrel reversed and the waffenamt on the upper left side of the barrel just isn't correct at all. But, unless you have a pistol to compare it to or are intimately familiar with the markings, someone could be and was fooled.
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