Seen one of these DSM34 before?

[van59]

Seen one of these DSM34 before?
I think I got lucky yesterday not only with the find but the extraordinarily low price from a dealer that had a few guns not as their primary inventory. It was missed by any other gun dealer at this large mall given set up day.
This gun is clean thruout, hardly used, and appears to have only 1 trigger screw messed with. The bore is very clean.
I'm not sure what the plate and hole on the right side butt stock is for. The low serial number and the non-nazi proof marks would seem to indicate to me that this gun is early SA. The painting of the group on the forestock appears to be original.
There are 2 dings to the stock; right side, top, near receiver and right side top in front of bolt slot. There are some strange, uniform marks on the barrel in front of the front sight.
My basic research on the WMA forum has resulted in mainly KWW guns and nothing like this DSM34. Anyone have something similar? Am also kinda curious what this is worth - I haven't asked this before.
Thanks in advance for any input.
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[RobertE]

Congratulations on a VERY neat looking trainer! I really like the forearm group markings painted on.

I'd imagine the lug in the stock is to dissassemble the bolt, but others more knowledgeable will likely weigh in.

regards, Robert

[JoeW]

I agree that it is a neat trainer with the SA markings. But is it really a DSM 34? I have some serial numbers of later Erfurt guns going from 2000 into the 12 000 range, with several SA marked among them. I like the simulation of the G98 sling arrangement with even the hook on the front barrel band.

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Good question, and I don't believe is a DSM 34 - but certainly is a trainer of some type. regards, Robert

[Daniel H.]

This is not a DSM-34, but your Erma is a very nice SA sport rifle. My offhand guess is that it is a Mod.-35. I have a period Erma brochure somewhere, and will post a picture from it later. This rifle is one of the many competitor models to the DSM-34 and the Thuringen Gruppe marks really set the rifle apart from the run of mill examples.

There are many differences between this and the standard M-W pattern dsm-34, but the most prominent are the receiver, bolt and butt stock/take-down disc. There are enough dsm pix on the Internet to facilitate a good comparison.

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Congratulations on a VERY neat looking trainer! I really like the forearm group markings painted on.

I'd imagine the lug in the stock is to dissassemble the bolt, but others more knowledgeable will likely weigh in.

regards, Robert

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The bolt face does not fit in the stock plate opening.
I can't comment on whether this gun is actually a DSM34 but it sure looked close enough. I assume, then, "34" refers to 1934?
Could this be originally a civilian sport model before 1934 that was later converted at some SA arsenal?
Thanks, Robert and Joe, for your comments.