Some WWII machineguns..Pics.

[drm2m]

British Lanchester smg.









MP44 (Erma assembled)




MP40 (Erma assembled)









MG42 and MG34 Gustloff assembled.














Russian PPSh-41.




U.S. M1928A1 Thompson smg.








David

[rajko84]

Nice collection

[kompanie]

Thanks for posting a really nice collection.

[Josh Beckett]

Cool collection, do they still shoot?

[drm2m]

Thanks Josh,

Three do...three don't.

I did not own a legal registered full auto on the grandfathering cut off date of Jan 1 1978...so I can not own a full auto in Canada.

I am licensed to own full autos that have been converted from full auto to semi-auto...this category does not exist in the U.S. ...I suspect.

The MP40, MP44 and Lanchester are registered as converted autos....the MG34, Mg42 and Thompson have been deactivated.

The MG42 and Thompson still have functioning actions....called "cock and click" in our part of the world....the Brits will understand the terminology....old style deactivation.

David

The grandfathering cut off date for full autos in Canada was January 1 1978.
These “grandfathered” automatics approximately 5,000 of them, are the only legal fully-automatic firearms that have been in Canada since 1978, and they can only be traded among those who legally possessed such a gun when the grandfathering provision took effect.

Current Canadian regulations prohibit the transport of full auto and converted (to semi auto) guns away from the address where the gun is registered.

They may not be transported to a shooting range.....no permits are available for that.

They may be transported to a gun show (not full autos...I think.) , gunsmith or the police for disposal.

[drm2m]

Some additional photos of the MG42 and MP44.





Gustloff's code "dfb" in 1943.













MP44 - Erma's late war code marking "qlv".










David

[John Slater]

very nice and great items thanks

[C.O.Sargent]

Very nice collection, I know what your talking about as I have a few converted autos myself.

[jawasinger]

WOW thats a kick a** collection great detailed photos aswell

[Alan Smith]

Yes, very nice photos - thanks.

I especially appreciate the detailed shot of the barrel jacket extension on the MG-34. In fact, I downloaded and saved this shot for future reference. When it comes to the specific markings on specific contractor's versions of the MG-34, there are surprising few good photos available on the internet.

Thanks!

[Josh Beckett]

Yep, we cant own any reciever that has been converted to semi auto from full auto. We have alot of laws that dont make any sense whatsoever.

[drm2m]

Some more photos of the Russian PPSh-41 smg.

This gun has been converted from full auto to semi auto and is registered accordingly in Canada.

I believe that this PPSh-41 was manufactured at factory 357 or the Moscow Tractor Factory in 1943.
The date is faintly seen on top of the receiver.

The gun was re-serial numbered to 667 at some point in its history.

There are a several different “number” markings on the stock. (The numbers 3 and 4 as well as another symbol.)

The number 5 is present on one of the stick magazines with a serial number on the floor plate.
The drum magazine also has the numbers 3 and 5 stamped in a circle.

I suspect these numbers are inspection markings of some sort…..or sub contractor identification?









































Some of the puzzling things about the Canadian laws regarding these guns;

-Someone that is licensed to own full autos may not own
a full auto that has been converted to semi auto unless they owned a converted gun before the converted gun category was grandfathered.

-A full auto can not be converted to semi auto----it can only be
deactivated and deregistered.


David

[drm2m]

Accessories "and markings" for some of the guns shown below.

MP44- spare parts pouch and Czech repacked German WWII ammunition as well as DDR marked ammo.









MP40 magazine pouch with various manufacturers’ code marked magazines.

The magazine pouch was manufactured by;
Richard Ehrhardt Lederwarenfabrik, Possneck, Thüringen.
Manufacturer’s code “bdr” (his code in 1942-1944).

One of the belt loops shows MP38 u. 40 with” bdr 42”. The other strap shows a WaA 86 acceptance stamp.
The front center cell has some ink numbers, probably from the cloth manufacturer.













Lanchester smg Mk1*---this gun has been converted from full auto to semi auto.

The gun was manufactured in 1942 by Sterling Engineering Company Ltd.

The markings on part of the Lanchester.
















Lanchester smg magazine pouch with three magazines.











Markings on two 50 round Lanchester magazines , S.E.Co. manufactured by Sterling Engineering Co Ltd.






Shown below is a partial view of a pattern 1907 bayonet manufactured by Wilkinson, together with a 1943 dated Lanchester magazine pouch.







A sling for an MG42 .....well marked.
Sling markings.... manufacturers code "gyo" dated 1943 , WaA? on the hasp, E/WaA668 acceptance marking on the leather.





David

[Douglas Jr.]

David,

That is an outstanding collection!
Personally I think that the downgrading from full-auto to semi-auto is much less ahrmfull than simply (and dumbly) cut off the receiver and destroy the gun integrity.

Thanks for sharing!

Douglas