strange k98 bolt

[jurggie]

hello guys,

I have a question about the bolt of my k98.

It's obvious not the common bolt as you can see at the pictures, but i'm sure it's original composed because the number on the bolt is the same as on the gun itself and the iron parts have also the same waA as the wood so all the numbers are the same.
But why the bolt is different? I've never seen something like that before.

[rudolf]

It's maybe a bolt from a K98A that was reissued?

greetz

[FestungSpanien]

Yes, I think so

It's maybe a bolt from a K98A that was reissued?

greetz

[Peter C]

Its not a Kar98a bolt. A Kar98a bolt has a sharp corner where the ball meets the curved handle, not a smooth blend as this one exhibits. Also, the curve of the handle is not correct for a Kar98a bolt.

[John Hodgin]

Believe it is a WW I 98k bolt.

[FestungSpanien]

yes, you are right, I didn't notice that before

Its not a Kar98a bolt. A Kar98a bolt has a sharp corner where the ball meets the curved handle, not a smooth blend as this one exhibits. Also, the curve of the handle is not correct for a Kar98a bolt.

[jurggie]

The k98 is a CE maded in 1943.
How can it be a WW1 k98? The k98 was designed in 1935, that's not possible.

So it's also no k98a bolt as i understand it correctly?

[John Hodgin]

The k98 is a CE maded in 1943.
How can it be a WW1 k98? The k98 was designed in 1935, that's not possible.

Am not claiming, as you seem to be, that the bolt is original to your rifle. It is NOT regardless of any number.

My father had a 1916 98 (Erfurt) with exactly this type bolt, it's number matching the rifle.

[John Hodgin]

The k98 was designed in 1935, that's not possible.

AND by the way, the 98 was designed in 1898, hence the designation, 98!

[Peter C]

BTW...it was the GEW98 that was designed in 1898 NOT the K98 or 98K.

[John Hodgin]

BTW...it was the GEW98 that was designed in 1898 NOT the K98 or 98K.

Correct, meant to leave the k off the posts. But the valid point of this discussion is, a WWI 98 bolt will perfectly fit a WWII 98 rifle. And that is a WWI bolt illustrated in this thread isn't it? Which till now, no one seemed to know.

[phil337]

http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/detail/kar98_1915.htm

[jurggie]

Correct, meant to leave the k off the posts. But the valid point of this discussion is, a WWI 98 bolt will perfectly fit a WWII 98 rifle. And that is a WWI bolt illustrated in this thread isn't it? Which till now, no one seemed to know.

Yes, i meant the k98k, but i didn't knew that the bolt of a (g)?98 also fits in a WW2 k98.

So probably they used an older bolt for this rifle, and gave it a matching number with the rifle?
Were there material shortages in 1943? Or could it have antoher reason?

[phil337]

is it me or do i see holes on the top of the receiver to suggest there used to be a scope mount on it, maybe the bolt was specially designed for sniper use, or cold winter use, to ease in operation?

[Peter C]

Correct, meant to leave the k off the posts. But the valid point of this discussion is, a WWI 98 bolt will perfectly fit a WWII 98 rifle. And that is a WWI bolt illustrated in this thread isn't it? Which till now, no one seemed to know.

You are correct that a WW1 bolt will fit into a WW2 rifle. Actually a Czech, Polish or any number of bolts will fit.

The bolt in question may be from WW1, but it didn't come out of a German service rifle. If the bolt in your father's rifle was EXACTLY like this one, then it didn't have the right bolt in it either. If you had read my first reply to this post you would know why this is NOT a German WW1 bolt. Look at the blend between the ball and the stem on the bolt in question.



Now look at the same area on a real German WW1 bolt.



Notice the difference?