Help - K98 and M1 nemesis

[Suber]

Hi Lloyd,

My reference books put your receiver at more like April/March of 1944. The cartouche on the side of the stock is a post-war Defense Acceptance stamp. The 12 SA bolt is correct. Is the entire trigger group all Winchester? Or just the guard?

Is this a CMP rifle or an import? I would think in today's market $800 to $1000 would certainly cover the replacement cost for a pretty standard mix-master M1 Garand, unless it has some other rare parts or has a matching barrel. IMHO I think even $800 is on the high end.

Have fun with it! And shoot it until it smokes!

Blair

typically the "mix-master" Garands will have rebuild proofs somwhere on the stock. I have a matching barrel and reciever 54' that is H&R, somewhat harder to find original than SA. I agree with you on price that a matched reciever and barrel bring a bit more WITHOUT rebuild proof marks, which would make it a 1200.00 rifle. I paid 1100.00 for mine as I knew that it had its original barrel and no rebuild proof marks.

[Suber]

It is certainly possible that this rifle was used as well in Korea, or at least marked with the acceptance stamp as battle -ready if needed.

[Suber]

I LOVE these Garands!! I like the 50's series just as much as the WWII Garands personally.

[Lloyd I.]

I would NOT shoot commercial loads through this rifle. I have a bunch of Lake City M2 ball that I bought a few years back. I would look for some of that, as it is still out there. There is also Greek boxer primed non-corrosive surplus that I have seen as well. I personally would not shoot this rifle much. It is a collectable after all. I have a 54' Garand H&R and I dont shoot it.

Nope, I wont be putting anything new through it. Im actively searching and may get some from CMP.

Trigger group is
D28290-14-SA

[bigschuss]

typically the "mix-master" Garands will have rebuild proofs somwhere on the stock. I have a matching barrel and reciever 54' that is H&R, somewhat harder to find original than SA. I agree with you on price that a matched reciever and barrel bring a bit more WITHOUT rebuild proof marks, which would make it a 1200.00 rifle. I paid 1100.00 for mine as I knew that it had its original barrel and no rebuild proof marks.

Maybe it's just me, but this rifle looks like a typical mix-master? I don't think it has any more "collectibility" than a Russian K98. These things have been sold by the 10's of thousands by the CMP in the past 4 or 5 years. This one with the nice DAS stamped stock is nicer than most, I'll agree. But if this is an $1100 rifle then people have gone truly nuts, because you can get the same basic thing from the CMP for about $500.

The 14 SA trigger housing isn't correct, the rear site isn't, the stock isn't, the trigger guard isn't....mix-master.

Lloyd, it would be interesting to hear about some of the other parts. Can you give us some of the numbers off the op rod, barrel, trigger, safety, etc? That would all affect value. You may even discover a truly rare and expensive part or two.

IMO, they are weapons of war and they are tools. They were designed to be shot. Shoot the darn thing! Or I suppose you could keep it locked away forever and only take it out once a year to show off. Just be sure to wear those silly little white gloves!

By the way...I just volunteered to serve on the Honor Guard in my VFW. I've wanted to get more involved, and I think this would be a great way to participate and honor others. I wonder if they'll let me use my own personal rifle? Probably not.

[Lloyd I.]

Well, I can see now why prices are all over on these. I paid $900 for it but they are definitely going over that. 30-06 is a nice round to send down range. Far better than 5.56 IMO.

Connecting rod: D35382 9 SA

Barrel:SA 6535448 3 65 Y77

Thanks for all the insights.

[bigschuss]

Well, I can see now why prices are all over on these. I paid $900 for it but they are definitely going over that. 30-06 is a nice round to send down range. Far better than 5.56 IMO.

Connecting rod: D35382 9 SA

Barrel:SA 6535448 3 65 Y77

Thanks for all the insights.

Hi Lloyd,

Things are a little more interesting now, as your Op Rod looks like it might be correct. There are 2 types of 9 SA op rods. One has a rounded side and one has a flat side. If yours is rounded, it is a valuable piece and is correct for your rifle. If it has a flat side, it is not correct. From the pics, it looks like it might be flat. But it's tough to tell.

The barrel is a March 1965 barrel.

[Suber]

Nope, I wont be putting anything new through it. Im actively searching and may get some from CMP.

Trigger group is
D28290-14-SA

Part of the REAL problem with shooting these "collectables" is CMP is OUT OF LAKE CITY!!! They have the greek stuff which is supposed to be good through these. I agree completely with shooting a "Mix-master" till it smokes as has been said, you are only out 500.00 throught CMP with a mix lot of parts thrown together. I would do a bit more research before I go ape**** at the range with this rifle and "smoke it".

[Suber]

If it is a WWII receiver and a 65 barrel...........................then SMOKE AWAY!!!!!

[Suber]

I on the other hand will NOT smoke a known dated receiver with same year barrel, and the lack of arsenal rebuild. To me that is foolish when you can by a CMP for 500 ( and wait 6-8 months for it) and smoke it till it melts.