P 38 and Luger

[Mark C.]

These are 2 of my small collection of German pistols . The P 38 is a 44 Z code with about 98 % blueing all matching except clip. The Luger is a BYF 42 99% blueing non matching clip.

[rkhunter]

Hi, those are very nice pistols, I really like the P.38.. very nice!

Welcome to the Forum!


Kai

[Mark C.]

Thanks R K ,I also have the holster for the P 38 but have misplaced it!!!!!! will post when I find it .I think the P 38 saw very little if any action because it really is pristine and if i am not mistaken 44 Z would put its production at the end of 1944,right?

[Edelweiss]

Two very nice guns I first saw in the helmet forum.
May I ask where you got this neat wooden stand for the Lüger ?

[rkhunter]

Hi, sorry, I dont know anything about the numbers on these pistols as I dont collect pistols or firearms. Over here in the U.K. they are banned and I dont see the point in collecting something that does not work, if that makes sense! I really like looking at them though and appreciate it very much when I see quality examples posted up on the forum! You dont know how lucky you are over in the States, we get treated like children over here!! And you say you have a holster for the P.38 somewere..sweet, you must find it! And I would agree with you that the P.38 looks like it has hardly been used!!

Kai

[Mark C.]

Two very nice guns I first saw in the helmet forum.
May I ask where you got this neat wooden stand for the Lüger ?

Thanks for the kind words ,the stands were purchased for a very reasonable 14.99 each at www.donaldevans.com he alos has alot of walther stands if your interested.Shipped them quickly no problems

[Mark C.]

Hi, sorry, I dont know anything about the numbers on these pistols as I dont collect pistols or firearms. Over here in the U.K. they are banned and I dont see the point in collecting something that does not work, if that makes sense! I really like looking at them though and appreciate it very much when I see quality examples posted up on the forum! You dont know how lucky you are over in the States, we get treated like children over here!! And you say you have a holster for the P.38 somewere..sweet, you must find it! And I would agree with you that the P.38 looks like it has hardly been used!!

Kai

I hear you, I have never fired the luger because it is pristine also ,but I just couldnt help myself and went to my gun club and squeezed off a few clips with the P 38,needless to say it was awesome and I hope you someday will experience the same joy I have in firing these incredible firearms.My gunclub also has a 1943 Thompson SMG I have fired a few times,problem is they want 45 USD for 1/2 hour of range time and 25 USD a stick after the first one ,it adds up quick as you could imagine

[Edelweiss]

Thanks for the kind words ,the stands were purchased for a very reasonable 14.99 each at www.donaldevans.com he alos has alot of walther stands if your interested.Shipped them quickly no problems

Thanks for the info, and good luck in keeping your 2nd amendment alive by the way.

[rkhunter]

Hi, the luger is a lovely piece also, and I can see why you dont want to fire it, the P.38 would be awesome to fire a couple of clips from, I would have been the same as you!! Your gunclub sounds like a great place to spend a few hours a week at, but I can see what your talking about regarding their 1943 Thompson SMG.. would be expensive if you got carried away!! I will one day get the chance to fire a pistol etc, but I will have to wait until I visit the States some day, but until then I will enjoy looking at the lovely examples that you guys post up! Cheers,

Kai

[rkhunter]

Hi, forgot to ask, does the Luger and the P.38 use the same 9mm round? And what is the round called??



Kai

[Mark C.]

Hi, forgot to ask, does the Luger and the P.38 use the same 9mm round? And what is the round called??



Kai

9 mm parabellum for both or 9x 19 same thing

[rkhunter]

Thanks for the info SE, I only asked this as I have heard about, 9mm short, 9mm luger, 9mm parabellum rounds etc, and was not too sure what one was used for these pistols durind the TR period. Is it the same 9mm parabellum round that would be used in a modern Glock, Beretta etc or do you need to get special ammo made up for it?

Kai

[Mark C.]

Thanks for the info SE, I only asked this as I have heard about, 9mm short, 9mm luger, 9mm parabellum rounds etc, and was not too sure what one was used for these pistols durind the TR period. Is it the same 9mm parabellum round that would be used in a modern Glock, Beretta etc or do you need to get special ammo made up for it?

Kai

same standard casing as today but i believe and someone please correct me if i am wrong the loads,meaning gunpowder was less than todays loads

[Rylan]

Kai, 9mm Luger is the same as 9mm parabellum which is actually 9x19mm the 19mm is the length of the casing... 9mm short is actually .380 Auto.

There are different loads you can get, but if you want to fire your Luger or P38 I would NOT use a hot load. 115gr. rounds will work the best IMO make sure the ammo you are using is regular FMJ round nose. Don't bother using any hollow points etc. If the Luger is all matching, I would not use it. However I don't see too much harm in using your P38.

[rkhunter]

Hi, very interesting info, thanks very much!



Kai