98k Sniper (Col. Klink's rifle)

[Col.Klink]

Thanks for the tips! What is the WaA code for a bcd stock correct for my rifle? Also, in getting the stock modified to fit the LSR mount, is there a specialist I could send the stock to? I imagine it will be very hard and expensive to get the correct butt-plate, but I hope to do it! Also, the scope's optics are horrible, so do any of you guys know of a specialist who could repair it, or should I not get it repaired and keep it how it is?
Grant

[bodes]

Thanks for the tips! What is the WaA code for a bcd stock correct for my rifle? Also, in getting the stock modified to fit the LSR mount, is there a specialist I could send the stock to? I imagine it will be very hard and expensive to get the correct butt-plate, but I hope to do it! Also, the scope's optics are horrible, so do any of you guys know of a specialist who could repair it, or should I not get it repaired and keep it how it is?
Grant

Grant, I think a late war Gustloff stock is fairly sterile of proofs......There wouldn't be an eagle H on the side.....Perhaps a 'c' on the handguard and/or buttstock (down below between grip and buttplate).....WaA'd 749 or 18 on the buttstock by the 'c'.....

As for the scope, there are reputable people to service them.....IF you're unable to find someone on this forum, ask around on the G/K43 forum.....Bodes

[phild]

I agree with Phil.....A proper Gustloff made stock would be worth the time and money in comparison to what you have now.....I'm not sure IF the bands would've still been numbered at this time?....IF not, lucky you.....

Unfortunately, what do you do about a correct sniper buttplate?....I would believe an original would be pretty tough to obtain.....

My knowledge is not real high concerning all of the details of LSR fitted snipers, I am much more involved with Turret Mount systems..especially the low mount earlier type.

I could be wrong...however I am not so sure that all LSR examples were originally fitted with the checkered butt plates from the factory...I feel pretty sure that not all were. It is for sure that not all had the extended safty lever as the one in this tread as an original milled off example fitted.

I personally would forget the checkered buttplate as a repro will be all that you will likely find and I would rather have the smooth orginal to a repro.

[vintagescope]

Don't forget this 98 is not Gustloff but Sauer....
Phil is right, no checkered buttplate on this LSR U letter block.

[mjones]

Very nice matching rifle. I didn't realize that Walther was the manufacturer of the LSR mounts. One can only dream of owning one like that one day after hitting the lottery. My LSR is a total repro bcd 4 other than the scope which is an early Zeiss and not correct for an LSR. I built it as a shooter.

How does your LSR group?

Mike

[Col.Klink]

Mike, the scope's optics are horrible right now, with most of the three posts washed out. I fire it using the iron sights, and can get a tight grouping using those at 200 yards. I haven't tried it further than that. The bore is mint, so it shoots like a dream! As to the WaA359 codes on the mount, I think that the Gustloff factory did alot of subcontracting, and therefor you will find many different WaA codes on the various parts.
Grant

[bodes]

Don't forget this 98 is not Gustloff but Sauer....

.....Bodes

[phild]

Don't forget this 98 is not Gustloff but Sauer....
Phil is right, no checkered buttplate on this LSR U letter block.

I think that Bodes and I are pointing out is that the receiver appear to be marked bcd (partial visible) and accepted for same on the right side. The mount is marked e359...and realize that Wa can be associated with Sauer (and others)...again I need to read up on LSRs and understand where the mounts were made and accepted...if not at Gustloff...but the rifle seems to be straight Gustloff.

[vintagescope]

"accepted for same on the right side...".... Are you sure ? Waa ?
Bodes :
7835 u is Gustloff type serial number for you ?
Receiver is of course Astra Werke , marqued BCD4, but final acceptance...

[phild]

"accepted for same on the right side...".... Are you sure ? Waa ?
Bodes :
7835 u is Gustloff type serial number for you ?
Receiver is of course Astra Werke , marqued BCD4, but final acceptance...

OK I see where you are going. I have no references handy right now so take that in consideration..but the right side "proofs" look to be an eagle over a stck like 1 and that mark is (I know) found on early Gustloff 98ks like the 337 1940 variation...I don't recall if they using it in 44 as I sold my last bcd 44 about 20 years ago.

I 'm less sure about why you are saying that bcd is Astra Werk..as it seems very understood that bcd is in fact Gustloff in Weimar.

I understand about receivers for some lots being completed at factories other than where they were made and maybe this example was scope fitted at Sauer. I am not up to speed on the serial number details of these two makers during this timeframe again I keep up more with the turret mount suffixes and variations.

[Alan Smith]

Thanks for all the replies - we have a good discussion going here!

I have a number of other photos that I did not post (mostly of the receiver/mount/scope). If anyone needs a better view of any particular area, please let me know as I may have a photo of what you want to see.

Alan

[Col.Klink]

Glad to hear that, besides the stock, everyone thinks this is a nice original rifle!
Thanks guys!

[SINGLE CLAW]

Nice LSR . Yes Stock is not Correct , Should have Type with Take Down Disc
and Bayo Lug . Look at Final Exceptance Proof if 749 its Gustloff if 37 its Sauer
But nothing on this Rifle Points to Sauer , also if Sauer would have 37 on right side Rec next to 1 proof and it does not its Gustloff for Sure . I would look for Original Checkered Buttplate which it should have . I own 7 LSR Snipers 6 are BCD all have Checkered Buttplates and 1 Sauer all Matching and has Smooth Buttplates . I have only ever seen one Sauer Completed Rifle with Checkered Buttplate and this one had a Gustloff BCD4 Rec . All other Sauer LSR`s I have owned or seen have Smooth Buttplates . As far as Scope I would have it Cleaned Dave Miller can do it email is Optic-House@yahoo.com Also as far as Stock it would have been Numbered to rifle You can find Stock and Buttplte
but may take some effort but well worth it . This Scope & Mount Configuration is in my opinion and many others the HARDEST to find and a Matching one Even better . If owner wants to chat contact me at DaveR626@Comcast .net
I will tell you as much as I can . Again Very Nice LSR .

[Willi Z.]

Nice early "bcd4" LSR. I have a friend who owns one within 200 of this serial number so I will ask him about the buttplate on his and whether the front bands are numbered. I know his has the stamped and blued bands. I tend to doubt they are numbered and suspect his butt plate may not be the serrated style found on later rifles

As for a "bcd" stock the later LSRs that I have all have the "eagle H" on the right side of the stock. As well as the "c" that Bodes stated.

It is worth seeking a "bcd" stock IMO.

[bodes]

As for a "bcd" stock the later LSRs that I have all have the "eagle H" on the right side of the stock. As well as the "c" that Bodes stated.

Willi, I had a 1943 dated Gustloff K98k and don't remember it having an Eagle H.....Doesn't mean it didn't, I just don't remember so.....Steyr(bnz), and Waffen Brunn(dot) are the last rifles that readily come to mind that Eagle H'd their stocks......Bodes