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    Luger P08 WWI

    Gentlemen,

    I don't know much about handguns and I was offered this one by a friend of mine. I have never collected these and have limited knowledge and would appreciate any help.

    I know that it is a classic Luger P08 which is marked "DWM" and dated 1916 and for some reasons, seems to have been reissued in 1920 ???? Why ?
    The conditions seems quite nice and it has all matching numbers.
    It is also marked "S P O" which he told me stands for "Schutzpolizei", is that true or not, I have no idea.

    Do anyone see anything wrong with this handgun ?
    My other question is on its value, which I have no idea.
    It is being offered to me at $ 1000 USD, fair deal or not ?

    Many thanks !

    Pat
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              #7
              The 1920 is a Weimar government property stamp indicating that the pistol was retrieved by the government, probably from a former soldier, then put back into government use. The grip strap marking probably indicates Schutzpolizei Osnabrueck, 2nd Centuria, weapon 57.

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                Thank you for the info !

                Would $ 1000 be about right for this particular Luger ?

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                  ??

                  With the wear on the grips and what appears to be some slight degree of pitting and the fact that it is a reissue piece to the Polizei of the Weimar Republic make it a little rich to my way of thinking at $1000. But of course, in the area of collecting, sometimes something is worth what someone is willing to pay for it and how badly they want it! I'd ballpark it in the area of $800, but that's just my personal opinion!
                  Merry Christmas!
                  Tim

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                    Thank you !

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                      pat

                      This is a Luger that has a lot of history in it.

                      Started out in life as an Imperial Army issued pistol that was subsequently reissued during the Weimar period to the Schutzpolizei. As mentioned, the double date is due to the government property stamp "1920" being added.

                      The front grip strap is unit marked to a fairly uncommon police District. It is also unusual that this police issued Luger was not retro fitted with a sear safety.

                      Taking for granted that all of the parts are all matching (very important) and the bore is in good condition, I feel that the $1,000 asking price is fair. If the wooden bottom mag (correct style) is numbered to this pistol, then the value would increase significatly.

                      Interesting Luger.
                      Joe

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                        Pat
                        I am in concurrence with Joe.... This pistol has a LOT of history, and there are collectors of just lugers with Unit marks. Given that GWA has stipulated that it is from an obscure organization, it might have even more value.
                        I'd sure jump on the 1K, and expect to sell to some collector for 1.2 or more. Given that all #'s are matching, you can easily get your $$ back..

                        Go for it Dude!!

                        r
                        The probability of being watched is directly proportional to the stupidity of your act.

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                          In days of yore "real collectors" turned up they noses at unit marks and/or reissues.
                          The ones labelled as "black widows" as a selling scam also were scorned.

                          All that has turned, whatever the reason.

                          I agree with the enhanced history theory. It should not detract in today's market.

                          You will not find a piece in this shape any cheaper.
                          MLP

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                            Hi,

                            I'm a little late on this one, but as said above, this is a good Luger for $1000.00. It has a interesting unit mark and has the original finish and Go after it!

                            Douglas

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                              Originally posted by MikeP View Post
                              In days of yore "real collectors" turned up they noses at unit marks and/or reissues.
                              The ones labelled as "black widows" as a selling scam also were scorned.

                              All that has turned, whatever the reason.

                              I agree with the enhanced history theory. It should not detract in today's market.

                              You will not find a piece in this shape any cheaper.
                              Thats true. Actually in days of yore "real collectors" turned up their noses at most any German military arm or any other 20th century military arm as a wothy collectors item. I'm talking about the 1960s (when I started) and earlier. "Real Collectors" in those days collected rare Colts, exoctic Winchesters and "Kentucky" rifles...unconverted and not re-converted.

                              Things do change and it's been a long time since a "real collecotor" suggested that I sporterize that "old army gun" which happened to be a turret mount German sniper rifle!

                              It is also true that unit markings are non-factory additions as are genuine SS re-work marks and genine ordnance converted sniper rifles, including Marine build 03 snipers. Technically all of those are "messed with guns" to the "purist". That is why I have never much respected the purist!

                              Black gripped byf Lugers are what they are with or without the nickname....who ever really coined it I will never know....I doubt that it is the guy who claims credit for coining it!

                              According the Still's research about 20% of the byf production was so fitted which makes real black stocked byfs about as common or uncommon as a G Date. I think that they look darn good and that is about as much reason as most things in this hobby have for being desireable.

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