Spreewerk grips?

[R_Hessian]

While we are on the subject of Spreewerk, I need to know if its true that Spreewerk grips had not the same count grooves on their manufactured grips?
I was presented this information by a German collector... but while we are at it is their anyone who can tell me how to see who made any set of grips?
I have a selection of grips that I will be selling and it would be nice to know who made them... any helpers?
And the soft "black" plastic late war ones are a total mystery to me.
Thanks,
Robert

[Jan Balcar]

Company Julius Posselt manufactured 1942-1945 P.38 grips with five interrupted grooves in screw area and this grips were entirely delivered to Spreewerk factory in Hradek nad Nisou. (Source: My research in State archive in Most, Czech republic)

No other P.38 manufacturer used in assembly plant Posselt grips.

All other grips manufacturers are using molds with six interrupted grooves in screw area despite the original WaA drawings (Source: Dieter Marschall) shows grips with five interrupted grooves in screw area.

Posselt grips are marked inside with interwined MD (Materlialprüfungsamt Dahlem) with code 1W. Codestamps list found in factory papers in State archive in Most, Czech republic.

The same code 1W found in Materialprüfungsamt Inform Letter as a Julius Posselt code. (Source: Dieter Marschall)

Note the Spreewerk used not only Posselt grips!

Soft "black" plastic late war grips I have found on P.38 SN 05279 cvq. This pistol was stolen April 30th 1945 after the Germans flew. Then some years hidden and then conficated by Police. Now is this pistol in State owned collection.

[R_Hessian]

Grips

Jan,
Thank you for the help!!! So would it be safe to say that Speewerk p38 could be considered correct if it had Mauser grips for example?
Thanks,
Robert

Company Julius Posselt manufactured 1942-1945 P.38 grips with five interrupted grooves in screw area and this grips were entirely delivered to Spreewerk factory in Hradek nad Nisou. (Source: My research in State archive in Most, Czech republic)

No other P.38 manufacturer used in assembly plant Posselt grips.

All other grips manufacturers are using molds with six interrupted grooves in screw area despite the original WaA drawings (Source: Dieter Marschall) shows grips with five interrupted grooves in screw area.

Posselt grips are marked inside with interwined MD (Materlialprüfungsamt Dahlem) with code 1W. Codestamps list found in factory papers in State archive in Most, Czech republic.

The same code 1W found in Materialprüfungsamt Inform Letter as a Julius Posselt code. (Source: Dieter Marschall)

Note the Spreewerk used not only Posselt grips!

Soft "black" plastic late war grips I have found on P.38 SN 05279 cvq. This pistol was stolen April 30th 1945 after the Germans flew. Then some years hidden and then conficated by Police. Now is this pistol in State owned collection.

[Jan Balcar]

I do not know about grips production by Mauser. Grips were produced by Carl Walther (code V7) and Trolitan Presswerk (code Z3). Source of coding: Dieter Marschall.
Both grips maybe O.K.

[R_Hessian]

Grips

Jan,
Thank you, But what about those soft black grips? And how does one tell if they are original... I don't believe the "soft" plastic were marked?
Regards,
Robert

I do not know about grips production by Mauser. Grips were produced by Carl Walther (code V7) and Trolitan Presswerk (code Z3). Source of coding: Dieter Marschall.
Both grips maybe O.K.

[Jan Balcar]

Yes, they are original very late war an commonly found on Mauser P.38. I have not seen marked soft plastic grips. I asked a specialist for a plastic materials and he said it is Novodur. I am not specialist for grips, I am researching all about the Spreewerk and their subcontractors. In my possession is Posselts trade licence copy and many interesting company papers.