Tis is on another thread and may be worth a new subject.
GWA, thanks for your clarification on the differences between thr belt/strap attachments for the Army Artillery and Navy WW1 P08s. I would like to sort a couple of points and draw attention to a rig I saw in a recent German (adapted for English ) TV documentary.
Mag Pouches - re the maker marks. I have 2 Brown twin mag P08 Army pouches that I am certain are original, one is showing as "sold" on the Collectors Guild Website. I have checked several P08 reference books and some do and some don't have the maker marks.
- square /cutoff end for closure strap. I agree that many recent repros have this feature. I have however seen some pics in reference books with such a pouch displayed with an Artillery (German Army version) and thus implied as correct. eg., at the foot of p72 of "Military Holsters of WW2" by Eugene Bender there is souch a pouch displayed. Perhaps this may have been adapted for use in WW2 and is not an original WW1 item. Similarly on P118 of the same book there is an example used by Iran with the same type of pouch. Guess I may have part answered the next question. On this point, is there much evidence of use of the WW1 Artillery in WW2. I have seen a few pics of the Mauser but not the Lang P08?
TV Show - you may be interested in a recent TV Doc shown in Australia titled "Hunt for the Kaisers Cruisers" - 2 episodes covering fate of the Far East German Naval Squadron in WW1. Why of relevance here? In the first episode it told of the Emden, sunk by an Australian Ship the Sydney off Western Australia( ironoically a WW2 Aust ship by the same name "Sydney" sunk by German Raider Kormoran in the same area and recently discovered. ) Some of the crew escaped and travelled through the pacific and Arabia to return home. One Naval officer is seen witha Navy P08 that he places in a shoulder rig holster with a spare mag pouch on the straps. The gun is a Navy. Only problem, the holster and stock was an Artillery! regards, John
GWA, thanks for your clarification on the differences between thr belt/strap attachments for the Army Artillery and Navy WW1 P08s. I would like to sort a couple of points and draw attention to a rig I saw in a recent German (adapted for English ) TV documentary.
Mag Pouches - re the maker marks. I have 2 Brown twin mag P08 Army pouches that I am certain are original, one is showing as "sold" on the Collectors Guild Website. I have checked several P08 reference books and some do and some don't have the maker marks.
- square /cutoff end for closure strap. I agree that many recent repros have this feature. I have however seen some pics in reference books with such a pouch displayed with an Artillery (German Army version) and thus implied as correct. eg., at the foot of p72 of "Military Holsters of WW2" by Eugene Bender there is souch a pouch displayed. Perhaps this may have been adapted for use in WW2 and is not an original WW1 item. Similarly on P118 of the same book there is an example used by Iran with the same type of pouch. Guess I may have part answered the next question. On this point, is there much evidence of use of the WW1 Artillery in WW2. I have seen a few pics of the Mauser but not the Lang P08?
TV Show - you may be interested in a recent TV Doc shown in Australia titled "Hunt for the Kaisers Cruisers" - 2 episodes covering fate of the Far East German Naval Squadron in WW1. Why of relevance here? In the first episode it told of the Emden, sunk by an Australian Ship the Sydney off Western Australia( ironoically a WW2 Aust ship by the same name "Sydney" sunk by German Raider Kormoran in the same area and recently discovered. ) Some of the crew escaped and travelled through the pacific and Arabia to return home. One Naval officer is seen witha Navy P08 that he places in a shoulder rig holster with a spare mag pouch on the straps. The gun is a Navy. Only problem, the holster and stock was an Artillery! regards, John
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