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    #1

    MP 40 price question & UK law

    Hope you guys can help here.
    I am thinking about buying a deactivated MP40 and will need to buy from the UK. The two i have seen have a working action, they can be stripped, cocked and dry fired.
    My questions are what you would expect to pay & how likely are these to be outlawed in the UK meaning that i would have to change it to a more complete deactivation?
    Thanks, Ant.
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    I would say you would be looking somewhere in the region of £2000 for an old spec MP40, sometimes you see them a bit lower and sometimes a bit higher but I'd reckon on two grand giving good a good starting point?

    As for the change in the law in future then I'm not sure? There was a lot of fuss about it at the start of the year but it all seems to of gone quiet at the moment? At the time there was talk that if in the future the law did change then there might be a loophole for legit collectors but what the government might class as legit collectors who knows - maybe they are meaning museums and the likes and not us individual collectors? Case of suck it and see I guess?

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      #3
      Thanks Mike, serious money but seriously nice gun! That's what i thought really, gotta think long & hard about whether i can afford it.
      The law question was a bit of a silly one, but just wanted opinions on this. I guess most people will hold onto their guns whatever happens, but it might become near impossible to sell a deactivated gun in the UK.
      Ant.

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        #4
        Anthony,
        Two links for you http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/detail/MP40_8.htm and http://www.de-ac.co.uk/

        Personally, I think about getting this one http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/de...44_STG44_8.htm Due to the currency rates they (old spec) are now even cheaper in the UK than in Germany. It will also require loads of paperwork to do but it think it's definitelly worth it. Even though it's still a lot of money

        Regards
        Jacek

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          #5
          Hi Ant well one minute your asking whats that gun im my collection and now your gonna buy one! you dont hang about .I brought my mp40 from steve @ www.deactivated-guns.co.uk he is a nice bloke and he gets some really good stuff to.i think he also runs the deactivated weapons collectors club that started when talk of the new laws came around(both mentioned by dect).£2000 is spot on you may find one cheaper for sale from a private seller are you aware of www.milweb.co.uk ? i brought my stg44 from a private seller no probs.Well good luck and looking forward to any pics you might post of your new baby .

          Cheers Chris

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            #6
            Originally posted by kompanie View Post
            Hi Ant well one minute your asking whats that gun im my collection and now your gonna buy one! you dont hang about .I brought my mp40 from steve @ www.deactivated-guns.co.uk he is a nice bloke and he gets some really good stuff to.i think he also runs the deactivated weapons collectors club that started when talk of the new laws came around(both mentioned by dect).£2000 is spot on you may find one cheaper for sale from a private seller are you aware of www.milweb.co.uk ? i brought my stg44 from a private seller no probs.Well good luck and looking forward to any pics you might post of your new baby .

            Cheers Chris
            yes Chris it's all your fault
            saw your mp40 & fell in love!
            The little research i did seemed to suggest Steve was the best guy to try.
            I'm getting married in December so not sure whether i can really afford one, i might have to get myself a Luger instead, or maybe nothing unless i sell a lot of my militaria.
            Thanks to everyone for the great help so far.
            Anthony

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              #7
              Anthony, I'd buy on before I got married, it would be easier
              If you Google MP40 deact, you'll turn up a number for sale, the sites mentioned usually have good examples. £1800-£2000 seem to be the going rate. Go for the best you can afford and stick out for a matching numbers example. Tim.

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                #8
                As already mentioned, there was another scare a few months ago but nothing came came of it and i don't believe anything ever will.....

                Steve at Arundel Militaria as been doing fantastic business recently. He had a nice Artillery Luger rig for £3,700 ish and it sold in a day....!!!!!
                None of his items seem to hang around for very long and he always bothers to post superb detailed photos.

                Go ahead and get your MP.40, you will regret it if you don't.
                I bought my first one about ten years ago at one of the Farnham shows and my eyes nearly popped out of my head when i saw it. Back then they were hard to find, in fact i was actually laughed at by a couple of dealers at the War & Peace show when i asked about there availability, now they are all over the place........

                Steve.
                Last edited by stevezz1; 05-21-2008, 04:13 PM.

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                  #9
                  None of his items seem to hang around for very long and he always bothers to post superb detailed photos.
                  Yep, I've noticed that, the photo's are absolutely brilliant and really show all the details of the gun.
                  Makes a nice change from seeing the usual couple of indistinct blurry snapshots on some sites.

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                    #10
                    Guys, what kind (if any) of paperwork the one need to buy a deact in the UK?

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                      #11
                      UK deacts

                      The only paperwork involved in buying a deactivated weapon in UK is to make sure that the gun has an official proof house deactivation certificate. There are only two official proof houses in the UK which are based near London and Birmingham. Even if a deactivation certificate has been lost it is possible to have it reissued after having it re-inspected by the proof house that originally deactivated the weapon.

                      Currently there is no need to obtain any other permission or licence to buy a deactivated weapon, though of course there is uncertainty for how long this is going to last. Here in Hong Kong we require approval to own deactivated weapons and are subject to regular security inspections. Deactivated weapons are treated like live weapons here.

                      Exporting deactivated weapons from the UK is a nightmare. Although deactivated weapons are expressly exempted from the UK strategic commodities export licence requirements the UK Trade Department (BERR) officials frequently give conflicting advice claiming that an export licence is required. A UK export licence is however required to export accessories such as tripods, optics and spare magazines from the UK so it is not always possible to avoid official export (and import) paperwork.

                      The UK post office refuses to handle deactivated weapons and most airlines are nowadays very wary about shipping deactivated weapons overseas from the UK.

                      It may well be easier to ship deactivated weapons to the EU, but it certainly takes a lot of time and effort to ship deactivated weapons from the UK to this part of the world.

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                        #12
                        If you dont want to drop 2k on an old spec you could try a new spec at around 900, you just cant cock and dry fire them. It depends on what your gonna do with it?
                        matt

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                          #13
                          Thanks to everyone, interesting stuff.
                          Personally i don't really see the point of a gun that can't at least be cocked & dry fired? Would feel very odd to own a gun that didn't at least do that.
                          Would be better if they fired although i am a shockingly bad shot, in Army cadets we were taken to the indoor firing range once & given live bullets to shoot. Anyone who showed promise would then get to shoot regulary including the outdoor firing range.
                          Of course i failed to even hit the target, well my excuse is that i was 13 or 14 and it was a WWI rifle!

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                            #14
                            now whats that saying
                            "a bad workman always blames his tools"

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by kompanie View Post
                              now whats that saying
                              "a bad workman always blames his tools"
                              it's either that or blame the idiot behind the gun

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