Strange mauser's grenade launcher sight

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It's a relic but looks different from what I've seen before - what is this? Have you ever seen something like this before? At first I thought it's just damaged but it looks totally different from standard one.

Any clues?

[Bill Grist]

It seems to be from the first model German Grenade launcher that was a spigot launcher...BILL

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It seems to be from the first model German Grenade launcher that was a spigot launcher...BILL

So I guess that means it's less common than the 2nd type? Like the one here http://www.lonesentry.com/articles/t...-grenades.html or here http://www.inert-ord.net/ger03a/gerr.../ggpspigot.jpg ? They seem to be different anyway...

[Bill Grist]

On closer inspection the 'dug' grenade launcher site seems to be the standard type or second variation with some parts missing.. I have a picture of a 1st. model grenade launcher site, and will post it..BILL

[dect]

I doubt it's the same - 1st pic: note the rounded and buldged place above the glass bubble, some kind of cover on the left side, and different shape of the "arm". On the 2nd pic it's clearly visible that the body is round - 2nd type has different shape.

And thanks in advance for the pic of the 1st type

[Bill Grist]

Picture of first model German Grenade Launcher and site.. I do not know of one in any collection here in the US and have never seen one in a museum either Here or in Europe.. Some of the Grenades were found in Russia several years ago, but none ever materilized on the collector's market.. I would think the the launchers and sites were lost in Russia and were of a small production run.. There have been some repro. first model grenade launchers in the market place, several showed up at SOS 3 years ago but the attaching bayonet type knob and spring were never finished, I think they came out of the Czech Republic.. The originals attach to the bayonet lug just like a bayonet...BILL

[dect]

I spoke to a Polish collector who had one - I'll look for a pic he sent me because I can't recall what type of attachment it had

[dect]

I have just received pics of 2nd sight of that type - now you can clearly see that it's different from both mentioned before...

What is that guys?

[dect]

Guys, any other ideas? Maybe if someone has "Backbone of the Wehrmacht" can take a look in it...

What I can say for sure is that it's German - beyond that are only questions.

[dect]

Guys, that's it? No more ideas? I'm about to put a reward for identifying that thing...

[Adrian Stevenson]

Hi Jacek, sorry, nothing in "Backbone of the Wehrmacht" like this.

Cheers, Ade.

[dect]

Thanks Ade.

Two more traces:

- I was told that this might be one of 2 or 3 versions of that well known German sight. Others are supposedly kept in Aberdeen Ordnance Museum. I didn't even know that other versions ever existed.

- could it possibly be a pre/WW1 'volley' sight? I know that's not the WW1 forum but maybe somebody have heard of this.

[AgentLynch]

Guys, that's it? No more ideas? I'm about to put a reward for identifying that thing...

Hi,
I registered here just to collect the reward. The sight is of Hungarian origin and was used together with their version of the rifle grenade launcher which is a copy of the German launcher with fine threading but differs from it by having a slot to accommodate the small bayonet lug of the 35M and 43M Hungarian bolt-action rifles. I've already passed this information on to Michael in case he publishes a revised edition of his book.

[AgentLynch]

Hungarian rifle grenade launcher sight

If necessary I can upload or send pictures of a deactivated 43M with the Hungarian launcher.

[Bill Grist]

If necessary I can upload or send pictures of a deactivated 43M with the Hungarian launcher.

Pictures would be great...Thanks BILL