Flammenwerfer 35 image

[Ardee]

Hello, this is my first post, and I'm hoping somebody here can help me with something for which I've been searching a long time: a scale line drawing of the Flammenwerfer 35, something akin to the images at the link below. A link, scan -- perhaps even something from the German manual -- or book reference would be greatly appreciated!

http://www.lonesentry.com/articles/portft/index.html

Incidentally, I would also appreciate a little clarification by someone wiser than myself. In another thread on this forum, and on other sites, I have seen references to a Flammenwerfer 34, a weapon I am ignorant of. Is this just a typo-sort-of-thing, or was there actually a weapon with that designation? I'm familiar with the 35, 41, the Klein 40, and the Einstossflammenwerfer -- but no 34. Yet the "34" reference appears numerous places, on sites in English, French, Russia, and probably more I can't recall just now...can anybody shed some more light on this?

Thanks in advance for what help may come!

[Lassi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IujcshF89GQ

Cheers
Lars

[british]

Flammenwerfer 34

Have a look at this link. http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/showthread.php?p=95604

[Ardee]

Thank you for your suggestions. Yes, both of the links above depict the weapon I am seeking assistance with, although the second site uses the FW 34 designation I was trying to get clarified. I have little doubt the weapons are very similar, if they are indeed different at all. But I'm looking for an image similar to what is below, or a photo that is clear enough for me to create my own such. While I have found many photos of the FW 35, they all are either at the wrong angle or too dark, blurry, etc., for me to see the details I need -- especially the weapon's construction below the main fuel tank. .

An image from a German manual, or an Allied intelligence document would be ideal, and I've searched through every approriate one I can find, as well as more conventional sources. I've never, however, come across a German manual for this weapon.

Any help would be appreciated...

[british]

Flammenwerfer

There are people on this forum who own them or know who owns them,

[Ardee]

Thank you, british. Any ideas on how I can prod them to respond? :-)

[british]

Flammenwerfer 35

I wish I could. I have made several requests on this forum plus I have PM'd and e-mailed members on this subject and have not received even the courtesy of a reply Silence is the most thunderous. Only ever received one reply to a PM. None to a request. What are you actually after? I have some infomation on this weapon, e-mail me at rcresham@googlemail.com. Remember the 35 would not have been used against allied troops after the invasion on D- Day.

[Bjørn]

Hello. First of all; There is no Flammenwerfer 35! The correct name is Flammenwerfer 34. This model has large and heavy tanks. The tanks on the FmW34 are carried in a "standing" Vertical position. The later model is the FmW41. This model has smaller tanks and are thus easyer to transport, and use efficiantly. (Flammenwerfer42 is also a wrong designation of this weapon - a mis-understanding by the allied forces) in 1942 the flammenwerfer 41 had some improvements done, but it was still called FmW41. The only 42 model is the Abwehr "Flammenwerfer 42" this was a rather large un-portable flamethrower wich was mostly used in relation to bunker fortifications. These weapons were usually hidden/camoflaged and were triggered either by trip-wires (boobytraps) or they could be electrically ignited from inside bunkers or trenches. I'll attach a couple of pictures of FmW34 and FmW41

[Bjørn]

FmW41

[british]

Flammenwerfer 35

Maybe one of German friends could look at the following site:

http://talks.guns.ru/forummessage/18/256729-5.html

As the manual or guide is in German. It appears to be a full history of the Flammenwerfer. Its about half way down the page after horse drawn items.

[Ardee]

Hello Bjørn,

Yes, I am familar with the Abwehr Flammenwerfer 42, and there was also a large, two-man FW mounted on wheels, though I forget the designation at the moment. Could you be a little more specific about the 34 designation being the the correct one? What is your source? If you are correct, the error seems widespread....

[Bjørn]

Hello. The FmW34 and FmW35 designation is based on the new tank system that first came in 1934. However the Germans themselves never used this designation themseles, it seems like this designation was first mentioned AFTER 1945. The Germans used and tested different "strahlröhr" models on this tank configuration, until they finally adopted a satisfactory firing mechanism in 1938. The original name for this weapon was "der Kleinen Flammenwerfer" (or "The small flamethrower")

As for online soursces here are a few links:

http://www.theeasternfront.co.uk/Inf...tryweapons.htm

http://www.stardestroyer.net/Armour/...Arms%20OOB.htm

And of course the russian site, with a online copy of the German "Waffen-Arsenal" magazine:

http://talks.guns.ru/forummessage/18/256729-5.html

Anyway, The use of these early Flame throwers seem to have been much more extensive than the Flammenwerfer 41 during the war, (this is just my opinion, out of documentation, and images of flamethrowers wich I have encountered) but I have yet to see a preserved example of the 34 model, or Kleiner Flammenwerfer today. The 41 models are the ones encountered among collectors today (I have one in my collection)
The Large two man flamethrower on the trolley is proberbly the "Mittlerer Flammenwerfer" wich would be more correct to call the Flammenwerfer 35, as this model first came in 1935.
I hope this is a little more helpful.
Cheers
Björn

[Ardee]

Thanks for the information. And I'll try to find the image I'm looking for based on "Kleiner Flammenwerfer." I'll let you know if that works. And I think you are correct about the "Mittlerer"....

[Ardee]

So far, still no luck searching with "Kleiner"... can anybody help?

[Ardee]

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