List of surviving M.Kb.42(W)

[dect]

s/n 0067 - private collection

s/n 0072 - private collection

s/n 0078 - Aberdeen Proving Grounds

s/n 0084 - location unknown (shown in Senich book)

s/n 0097 - private collection, deact, sold on www.germanmilitaria.com in 2004

s/n 0109 - (stock cut in half) Springfield Armory Museum

s/n 0116 - (different stock shape) Russian Army Museum, Moscow

s/n 0120 - Finnish Arms Museum Foundation

s/n 0131 - Aberdeen Proving Grounds

s/n 0155 (s/n unconfirmed) - WTS Koblenz

s/n ? (impossible to read) - private collection, battlefield relic found in Czech Republic in 2007

Possible 2 more examples pulled out from water in Germany (information unconfirmed)

[mkb42h]

very interesting, the ones at aberdeen are not in the ordnance museum however, as i have looked and asked. west point museum also has one(not sure of serial#) as well as the MK 42(h) and an mkb 42(h).

[dect]

You are right about the MKs. There are two known MK survivors (West Point and Springfield Armory Museum) and and some rumors about the third one. However, no pics are known to exist.

M.Kb.42(H) is quite 'common' comparing to MK and Walther

[Adrian Stevenson]

Sending you a PM about another MKb.42(W)

Cheers, Ade.

[mkb42h]

come to think of it, the ordnance museum in aberdeen does have the vs-9-1. a very interesting and unique piece. as well as another rather mundane mkb 42 (h)!

[dect]

come to think of it, the ordnance museum in aberdeen does have the vs-9-1. a very interesting and unique piece. as well as another rather mundane mkb 42 (h)!

What is 'vs-9-1'?

Maybe '0084' is the one (Walther) from West Point? Could you email them and ask please?

[mkb42h]

the vs 9-1 is the mp 43/1 fitted with a front sight on the gas block, lower sight axis, and lowered buttstock. the rear sight is also moved back somewhat. it also has a hinged operating handle with a cover over the slot on the reciever sort of like the FAL (although the handle itself is missing).
when i looked at it my first thought was that it was designed as a firing port weapon. but it is probably just an attempt to deal with the high front sight complaints as well as other ergonomic issues.
the only markings other than factory codes (fxo,cos) are 'vs 9-1 43'(not sure about caps and punctuation, i have to find my photos) wher the serial # and date usually are.

[dect]

the vs 9-1 is the mp 43/1 fitted with a front sight on the gas block, lower sight axis, and lowered buttstock. the rear sight is also moved back somewhat. it also has a hinged operating handle with a cover over the slot on the reciever sort of like the FAL (although the handle itself is missing).
when i looked at it my first thought was that it was designed as a firing port weapon. but it is probably just an attempt to deal with the high front sight complaints as well as other ergonomic issues.
the only markings other than factory codes (fxo,cos) are 'vs 9-1 43'(not sure about caps and punctuation, i have to find my photos) wher the serial # and date usually are.

Oh I got you, you mean V9 (Versuchmodell 9, test model 9) Find these pics!

[Alan Smith]

There is a M.Kb.42(w) on display at the Tennessee State Museum in Nashville, Tennessee U.S.A. I've seen the gun and spoken to the curator about it (but did not record the SN).

According to the curator, an American vet donated two (2) M.Kb.42(w) to the museum. One is on display; the other (having a damaged front handguard) is kept in storage.

This is a very nice museum that is located in two (2) separate buildings in downtown Nashville, TN. One building (located in the basement of a state office building) covers the modern war items, including some of the items Sgt. York brought home as souvenirs. The other location has civil war-related items. If I make it back to visit again I'll take my digital camera and snap a few photos.

If anyone is seriously interested, I can locate the curator's business card among my effects and supply you with his contact information. I'm sure he would be happy to provide the serial numbers and answer questions.

[Oelsardine]

Mkb @ Wts

Hi,

aren´t there 2 Mkb42(W) at the WTS in Koblenz ?





Sorry for the bad pics, its some time ago i´ve been there.

Ciao,

Axel

[BRET VAN SANT]

dect, check you pm box for some info!

[mkb42h]

Oh I got you, you mean V9 (Versuchmodell 9, test model 9) Find these pics!

thats right, v.9.1 43, also trigger group marked awt. i will pm pics when i find/scan them.

also the curator at west point is dr. robert fisch, i suppose you could email him at west point (museum@usma.edu) to get the serial # of the walther they have.

they sell b/w photos of everything they have.

i am surprised most people don't seem interested in the m.kb.42(w) as it is probably the most rare german assault rifle of the era.

[DennyB]

I was told by a friend that attended some classes with the BATFE several years ago that they had one a few years ago but he heard that it was dewated or destroyed when it was used in a sting operation where they used it as bait to catch someone dealing in illegal machine guns.
Denny

[dect]

There is a M.Kb.42(w) on display at the Tennessee State Museum in Nashville, Tennessee U.S.A. I've seen the gun and spoken to the curator about it (but did not record the SN).

According to the curator, an American vet donated two (2) M.Kb.42(w) to the museum. One is on display; the other (having a damaged front handguard) is kept in storage.

This is a very nice museum that is located in two (2) separate buildings in downtown Nashville, TN. One building (located in the basement of a state office building) covers the modern war items, including some of the items Sgt. York brought home as souvenirs. The other location has civil war-related items. If I make it back to visit again I'll take my digital camera and snap a few photos.

If anyone is seriously interested, I can locate the curator's business card among my effects and supply you with his contact information. I'm sure he would be happy to provide the serial numbers and answer questions.

I'm definitely interested. If it's possible PM me with his email, please. Thanks in advance Alan.

Hi,

aren´t there 2 Mkb42(W) at the WTS in Koblenz ?


Sorry for the bad pics, its some time ago i´ve been there.

Ciao,

Axel

You're right, I missed that.

I was told by a friend that attended some classes with the BATFE several years ago that they had one a few years ago but he heard that it was dewated or destroyed when it was used in a sting operation where they used it as bait to catch someone dealing in illegal machine guns.
Denny

Any chance you can reach him and ask for some more details?

Ok, so we have


s/n 0035 - Defence Academy, UK

s/n 0050 - private collection, USA

s/n 0067 - private collection

s/n 0072 - private collection

s/n 0078 - Aberdeen Proving Grounds, Maryland, USA

s/n 0084 - National Firearms Centre Leeds, The Royal Armouries (the Old MOD Pattern Room), UK

s/n 0097 - private collection, deact, sold on www.germanmilitaria.com in 2004. Probably still in Canada

s/n 0109 - (stock cut in half) Springfield Armory Museum, Massachusetts, USA

s/n 0116 - (different stock shape) Russian Army Museum, Moscow

s/n 0120 - Finnish Arms Museum Foundation, Hyvinkaa, Finland

s/n 0131 - Aberdeen Proving Grounds, Maryland, USA

s/n 0155 (s/n unconfirmed) - first, WTS Koblenz

s/n ? - second, WTS Koblenz

s/n ? - first, Tennessee State Museum, Nashville, Tennessee, USA

s/n ? - second, Tennessee State Museum, Nashville, Tennessee, USA

s/n ? - West Point Museum, New York, US

s/n ? - BATFE (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives) USA. Probably severly damaged when used as bait to catch someone dealing in illegal machine guns.

s/n ? (impossible to read) - private collection, battlefield relic found in Czech Republic in 2007

Possible 2 more examples pulled out from water in Germany (information unconfirmed)