German 8mm Lebel Box

[Bill Grist]

Anyone have any of these 12 round German 8mm Lebel Boxes or the 8 round 1943 or 1944 German occupation packets of ammo...BILL

[roughshooter]

Sorry Bill I don't. But thank you for sharing these I feel they are an interesting find. I never knew the Germans produced this ammo. What was it used for ? Vichy French ? Supplying French Police units ? I have no idea please tell us more. Nice find.

Regards Craig.

[Bill Grist]

The Germans used as second line Weapons for drivers etc.. Old French Lebel Rifles and Carbines, and some of these weapons were inspected by the HWa and issued, such as the French R-35 Carbine..There is picture evidence of the R-35 8mm Lebel Carbine beeing used by KM personel in the Channel Islands...There was also 6.5mm Dutch and other Foreign ammo produced by the Germans...BILL

[Bill Grist]

French R-35 in KM use

Picture of French 8mm Lebel R-35 Carbine in use with German KM in the Channel Island

[Bill Grist]

Here is some 6.5 Dutch ammo produced by the Germans.

[Bill Grist]

6.5 Dutch

[mkb42h]

do you have images to post of the cartridges themselves + headstamps? would love to see them.

[leondes]

I saw this thread some time ago and finally got around to taking pictures of my example of the M1886-M93R35. I am a bit out of my collecting realm here so if anyone reads anything on my web site they feel is incorrect, I would appreciate knowing about it. I only purchased this rifle because it had German markings on it.

http://lmd-militaria.com/page0076.htm

Regards, Leon

[MBrandenburg]

Germans with French MAS36.

A couple photos of German troops with French rifles.

[pitts duncan]

MAKES ME WISH I HAD HAD THE PRESENCE OF KNOWLEDGE TO LOOK FOR WAFFENS ON THE LEBEL I TURNED MY NOSE UP at three years ago. i have just now realized that the waffen laid claim to about every pistol made in ww2 era. i now realize i will never collect them all. but i shall still try!

[Johnnie]

Bill,

I finally caught this thread and don't know how I originally missed it. I have a great interest in the foreign small arms used by the Wehrmacht, but I had always assumed that they had captured enough ammo along with them. This is the first I have seen that they produced ammo for them.
Thanks for sharing this with us!

Cheers,
Johnnie

[Bill Grist]

As asked for, here is the head stamp on 8mm Lebel produced under occupation in France... 8mm Lebel.. Steel cased Manufactured in 1943.. Markings are TE at 12 o'clock, 43 at 3 o'clock, C at 6 o'clock, 4 at 9 0'clock.. These were packaged in 8 round packets with German Language Labeling... In the 12 round Boxes the ammo for the Lebel was just repacked French ammo with German Labels.... They also produced ammo for the Bolt action Polish AT rifle and many other foreign ctgs... BILL

[Bill Grist]

Headstamp on 1943 8mm Lebel Ctg..

[mkb42h]

Headstamp on 1943 8mm Lebel Ctg..

interesting that they kept the french style layout and french code(toulouse)

[Admiraal]

As asked for, here is the head stamp on 8mm Lebel produced under occupation in France... 8mm Lebel.. Steel cased Manufactured in 1943.. Markings are TE at 12 o'clock, 43 at 3 o'clock, C at 6 o'clock, 4 at 9 0'clock.. These were packaged in 8 round packets with German Language Labeling... In the 12 round Boxes the ammo for the Lebel was just repacked French ammo with German Labels.... They also produced ammo for the Bolt action Polish AT rifle and many other foreign ctgs... BILL

Did they only made them in steel for the Germans?