Nice P38

[germacollector]

Hey Guys,
What do you think about this p38?
And what can you tell me about this piece!
And most of all is it original :-)




Sorry for the bad pics. hope you can help me out.
The serial number is 4889 with a d attached to it.
The silver part in the pistol is marked 889.
Front of the gun is also marked 4889 d.
And there are about 4 or 5 Waa marks with 135 underneath.

[Douglas Jr.]

hi,

This P38 was made by Waffenfabrik Mauser in 1943 (code "byf" - year "43"). It seems that it still has its original finish and the military acceptance marks (the WaA135) are correct for a Mauser's P38.

You should check if the serial numbers stamped on the frame, slide and barrel are matching (sorry, I couldn't figured out from the pictures). Looks like a nice looking collectable P38.

Greetings,

Douglas

EDIT: Sorry just re-read your message and see that it is matching. Good to know that.

[Ronnie Fry]

According to the experts, your pistol was made in April or May of 1943. Looks like a real nice one!! Keep it!!

r

[BostonMark]

The gun is also known as a first variation gun with the early style frame and extractor cut. About 50,000 guns were made this way until about June of 1943 when the factory added a reinforcing point on the frame at the trigger pivot and also simplified the extractor relief cut to a "half moon".

http://www.p38guns.com/AC432nd.htm

Mark

[germacollector]

But it is 100% original?
And thanks for your opinions so far.
Indeed it looks like a really minty gun to me.

[germacollector]

]But it is 100% original?
And thanks for your opinions so far.
Indeed it looks like a really minty gun to me.[/QUOTE]
And Ronny how do you know it was manufactered in april?

[ChrisCook]

p38 opinion

Souunds like it is all original based upon the serial numbers, however the pictures aren't optimal to tell everything. Most collectors who know their stuff can tell you the dates of manufacture with certainty. The way these were serial numbered is the giveaway. They start with 1 and go to 9999 followed with a letter suffix, such as A, then they revert back to 1 with a suffix of B, and so on. Based upon your D suffix that would indicate the approximate timeframe of production. Chris....

[germacollector]

Hello Guys,
I have made some new pics.
Hope you can tell me more, and most of all is this the real deal
And what was mentioned before, has it its original finish?

[P08]

I have a c block byf43 that looks like this one. Only difference is that mine has a blued locking block. Your's must be from around april just where they started making the hump in the frames. Of course there must have been some sort of overlap using up existing stock of frames?

To me your pistol look original. What magazine has it got?

[germacollector]

More opinions on this one?
And the magazin is also marked Waa 135.

[germacollector]

Come on guys help me out on this one

[fallschirm]

P38


very nice, beautiful weapon !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[leondes]

From the last set of pictures, it looks like the finish on the slide is very thin. The finish on the barrel and frame looks original, from what I can tell. It's very difficult to tell about originality from even the best pictures. Your pictures are not in focus, in some cases, and that makes it impossible to tell. In the picture of the underside of the slide, the finish looks very dark and the locking block looks very bright. That may be an indication of someone having cleaned the locking block on a dipped gun or it may just be the lighting. Again, just conjecture because I can't tell for sure.

The mag, being E/WaA135 marked, is from the 1944-45 time period. A "d" block byf43 would have a mag with the older E/135 marking.

We would like to be more helpful but a hands on inspection would be necessary to be absolutely sure and much better pictures would be necessary to even make an intelligent guess.

Here is a link to some basic pictures of a byf43 in the "f" block. It would have been made a couple of months after your gun. This example is the earliest I have seen with the late frame but the slide still has the earlier extractor cuts.

http://lmd-militaria.com/page419.html

Regards, Leon

[germacollector]

I believe the pictures aren't that bad
And the finish looks good to me.
And from which parts do you need photo's?
In my opinion it is original.
And why is it impossible to tell if it is original or not from a photo?
So you never buy something from the e-stand?
With a couple of good photos and a little knowledge it has to be possible to tell if an item is original or not??
But hey I'm not an expert so i hope there are some experts here

[besslein]

I believe the pictures aren't that bad
And the finish looks good to me.
And from which parts do you need photo's?
In my opinion it is original.
And why is it impossible to tell if it is original or not from a photo?
So you never buy something from the e-stand?
With a couple of good photos and a little knowledge it has to be possible to tell if an item is original or not??
But hey I'm not an expert so i hope there are some experts here

do you think your p38 is fake? or post war made?
I cant understand you,you have now some very good options on this one