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    #16
    I can tell it isnt matching numbers it has an early lower reciver and a later mag well and cocking handle so i bet it isnt matching but looks great and cheap for England but not sure on prices on the contnent

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      #17
      Originally posted by reidmuller View Post
      I can tell it isnt matching numbers it has an early lower reciver and a later mag well and cocking handle so i bet it isnt matching but looks great and cheap for England but not sure on prices on the contnent
      Of course...the receiver is from a pre-1941 MP40 and the mag housing a post 1941 one... but is not strange anyway...REAL matching MP are quite rare today...

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        #18
        Originally posted by lelez View Post
        19K????where????you jokin???
        yeah, 19k sounds stupid. they were mass produced by stamping. only the reciever had to be machined, that was the amazing beauty behind the german engineering on the mp 40. For any gun to be valued that high with no craftsmanship would be an oxy-moron to the gun world. millions were made, but maybe a few million were destroyed, I am by no means qualified to even guess how many should have survived.

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          #19
          Originally posted by lelez View Post
          19K????where????you jokin???
          these are for fully automatic guns, the ones that still fire, they are very hard to get though.

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            #20
            are you really allowed to fire and own automatic weapons in US?

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              #21
              Panthera,

              The MP your showing is in a good condition but:
              - It is overpriced, 600-800€ should be a fair price
              - it is not deactivated conform actual regulation and has to go back to Liège (banc d'épreuves) / grip and housing have to be welded together

              Regards,

              FRANK

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                #22
                Thanks for your opinion! Why do you think it's overpriced (because others said it wasn't)?

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                  #23
                  I would pay the price and leave the gun like it is.
                  If you want to get it ruined all the way, be stupid and take it to 'de proefbank van Luik".
                  Buy it, be smart (don't play with it on the street) and keep it in your collection.



                  That's why I don't collect de-activated "weapons" (can we still call it a weapon then?). To me, once they are de-activated, they are ruined and (to me), they are just pieces of metal.

                  Just my 2 cents,

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Von Hoth View Post
                    yeah, 19k sounds stupid. they were mass produced by stamping. only the reciever had to be machined, that was the amazing beauty behind the german engineering on the mp 40. For any gun to be valued that high with no craftsmanship would be an oxy-moron to the gun world. millions were made, but maybe a few million were destroyed, I am by no means qualified to even guess how many should have survived.
                    Von Hoth, Actually less than 1 million MP38's & 40's were produced (approx. 908,317)......Add in the attrition rate of losses incurred from combat during WW2 and after......And the ones destroyed by law enforcement agencies since that time......They aren't impossible to find, but the supply simply cannot keep up with the demand, hence the high prices.....Bodes

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                      #25
                      Panthera,

                      Prices in Belgium are a lot lower than in the rest of Europe.
                      Never compare prices in other country's, they're always different.
                      If you can buy a life (full-auto) MP44 for 1000-1500€, 1500€ for a MP40 is overpriced.
                      Now we have a new firearms-law, take your time and you will find what your looking for .Just post some ads.
                      You can always contact me if you find a life one and you want it to be deactivated.

                      regards,

                      FRANK

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by lelez View Post
                        are you really allowed to fire and own automatic weapons in US?
                        Yes, but they have to have been registered before 1986, and to get one means a 200 dollar tax, 2-8 month waiting period, a check in from the ATF every now and then, and submission of a fingerprint card and photograph, actually, there is no crime with legal fully automatic here in America.

                        BTW, can you own full autos in Belgium?

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Frank De Smedt View Post
                          Now we have a new firearms-law, take your time and you will find what your looking for .Just post some ads.
                          You can always contact me if you find a life one and you want it to be deactivated.

                          regards,

                          FRANK
                          Cheers Frank, I'll remember that!

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                            #28
                            BTW, can you own full autos in Belgium?
                            Not with the new law.
                            People who do have a full automatic from previous days (they were still allowed to buy with a registration in the '80s) are obliged to let them "remake" on single shot.

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                              #29
                              Nico,

                              At the moment you can't' own a full-auto on a model 4-license.
                              With a collector license you can still own full-auto's.

                              Regards,

                              FRANK

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                                #30
                                Thanks Frank,

                                It is always bad advise to let a perfect historical weapon being destroyed by demilitarisation.
                                The value is always going to be less for demilitarised fire arm than one that functions normaly.
                                This is my personal opinion, let this be clear for all!
                                If you feel more safe with a demilitarised gun DO IT!!!

                                Cheers,
                                Peter

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