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**bodes** · 01-16-2007, 11:04 PM

Thanks Bill, You're truly a Gentleman and an asset to this Forum.....Happy Collecting!.....Bodes

**jdbwoodsman** · 01-17-2007, 08:50 AM

The kit pictured is a very nice M1 Carbine cleaning kit and of course the Garand kits were either the plastic cylinder, nickel cylinder or green bag that slipped into the buttstock holes under the buttplate. Here are some excellent examples.

http://www.civilianmarksmanship.com/...cleaning2.html

**bodes** · 01-18-2007, 09:59 AM

It's my belief that the pouch (C6573) was a generic one used for both the carbine and the Garand.....I've seen different kits sold.....Some had 2 rods and others 3.....Would go to reason, that a Garand would need the extra rod for the longer barrel (24" compared to 18" for the carbine)......Just my personal theory, as I'm somewhat just getting into WWII US weapons accoutrements......Bodes

**jdbwoodsman** · 01-18-2007, 10:24 PM

That's why I like good reference books, we don't have to guess and speculate. As Craig Reisch states in US M1 Carbines - Wartime production "The M1 Carbine did not have a trap in the stock for a cleaning rod. Instead, a belt pouch was issued that contained a sectioned cleaning rod. A pocket on the pouch held brushes and patches. The belt pouch was marked Case, Cleaning Rod, M1 and was issued in khaki, then in olive drab after mid-1943. The cleaning rod was parkerized steel and the longer section had an aluminum handle, manufacturer code marked.

Of course the rods could be used to clean any rifle, but ordnance procured the belt pouch kits for issue with the M1 Carbine, and the butt stock kit was procured and issued with the M1 Garand.

Welcome to the US weapons collecting fraternity! It's a great time and most are super folks. You'll find yourself having as much invested in reference as the guns. For example, Chuck Clawsons Service Models book detailing the history and development of the .45 service pistol is running about $800-$1000 now. Probably worth it too.

**bodes** · 01-20-2007, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by jdbwoodsman View Post

That's why I like good reference books, we don't have to guess and speculate. As Craig Reisch states in US M1 Carbines - Wartime production "The M1 Carbine did not have a trap in the stock for a cleaning rod. Instead, a belt pouch was issued that contained a sectioned cleaning rod. A pocket on the pouch held brushes and patches. The belt pouch was marked Case, Cleaning Rod, M1 and was issued in khaki, then in olive drab after mid-1943. The cleaning rod was parkerized steel and the longer section had an aluminum handle, manufacturer code marked.

Of course the rods could be used to clean any rifle, but ordnance procured the belt pouch kits for issue with the M1 Carbine, and the butt stock kit was procured and issued with the M1 Garand.

Welcome to the US weapons collecting fraternity! It's a great time and most are super folks. You'll find yourself having as much invested in reference as the guns. For example, Chuck Clawsons Service Models book detailing the history and development of the .45 service pistol is running about $800-$1000 now. Probably worth it too.

Sir: No doubt, reference is paramount in collecting.....But, I figure this forum itself acts as a valuable resource too......As for the pouch, your description certainly make sense......Having a buttstock cleaning kit already for my Garand, I'll try to get the accompaning cleaning rods, handle, and tip(s) to go inside my pouch.....Than I'll place it with my Carbine......Thanks again, Bodes

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