My latest find! Nice early P27 rig!

[Matt Weber]

Just got this baby in, and got it for a steal as well! It is a very nice early war P27 rig.

The holster is an early war brown leather type. It is maker marked by "CZ", "eagle WaA76" and dated 1941. The police insignia on it, is real, but I feel that this was probably added to the holster by some American G.I., since it is crudely installed. Still looks cool though.

Matt

[Matt Weber]

Reverse of the holster, showing the makers logo "CZ" the military proof marking "eagle WaA76", and the date, 1941. Holster is also marked "P. Mod. 27".

[Matt Weber]

The gun is a very nice early war, high polished finish, and is serial range is 139xxx.

[Matt Weber]

the gun is military proof marked "eagle WaA76" on the right side of the frame, and also on top of the slide. Note in this pic also, the high polish finish of this early piece.

[Matt Weber]

Top of the slide shows us the entire makers name "Bohmische Waffenfabrik A.G. In Prag", followed by the "eagle WaA76" and aslo the serial number. Later war guns of this type will not be marked on the top of the slide like this.

[Matt Weber]

also the bottoms of the magazines are clearly marked "P. Mod. 27".
Overall a very nice piece, and I think that the P27 is a very good shooting gun as well. This baby shoots great!

[Chuck McLemore]

Hi Matt! A fine looking CZ rig. It is a good shooting pistol, and in my opinion Czech pistols are underrated. I have one in the 410xxx range with fnh on the slide. What is the year range on this pistol? I have noticed on every Mod. 27, that the barrel extends out from the slide a good bit, but mine is shorter (extends out about 1/16"). Do you have any information on this? Thanks

[Matt Weber]

Chuck,

Thanks Chuck. P27 pistols with the "fnh" slide are late war. These slides were made by Boehmische Waffenfabrik. All of the "fnh" marked pieces will be late war.
The serial range of the P27s made during the war was started at 16000 and ended around 480000. The serial number on your pistol would definately put it around late 1944. Yours will have a rough matte blued military finish. Also the side plate on the frame will be stamped, and will not have the screw like mine does. Also the top of your slide will not be marked like mine is, since it was made by "fnh".

Late war P27s (around the 450xxx range), will have a parkerized finish, and the grips will not have the "CZ" logo on them. Grips color can be anywhere from light brown to dark brown to black.

I agree that the P27 are very good guns, and great shooters. I also like the CZ38 as well. I think that these guns never get reconition due to the calibers that they use. The P27 is usually 7.65 (.32), and the CZ38 is 9mm short (.380). These are not very popular rounds for modern pistol shooters. I still like them though!

The other thing I really like about the P27 is its' collectability!
They made military P27s ("eagle WaA76"), commercial P27s ("eagle N"), some for the Kriegsmarine ("eagle M"), and even some police issued P27s ("Eagle K"). The only thing they didn't have was a Political P27. Also you can get an early war high polished gun, a mid war matte blued, or a late war parkerized gun! You could have a large collection of just P27s! Also there are several different type of holsters, and even accessories like the silencer for the P27!

Not sure why your barrel is shorter? can you post pics? If not, then take your barrel out of the gun, and measure it, and let me know the exact length of it. I'll compair that with mine.

Matt

[Chuck McLemore]

Thanks Matt. I appreciate the information. You are right, mine has the matte blued finish with black CZ grips and the P. Mod. 27 marked mag. I have always wondered about the barrel, it is WaA76 marked and eagle test proofed. The length is 3" and 23/32". Sorry, I'm not equipped for photos. I will just have to continue to look at your great photos for the time being.

[Matt Weber]

Chuck,

The length of the barrel on my P27 is exactly 3 7/8". So the length of your barrel is shorter, and that is why it doesn't protude as far forward from the slide. However, I am puzzled as to why yours is shorter? I don't really know why?

Anyways, at least that answers your question as to why your barrel doesn't stick out as far.

Matt

[Chuck McLemore]

Thanks Matt. Maybe it is just an oddball, who knows. I know I have never seen another one like it.

[Sayle F]

cz 27 year

Could you please tell me what year a cz 27 would be with a 5 digit serial number (34xxx)
Thanks,
kSF

[Matt Weber]

Sayle,

Your gun is a very early war gun. The Germans started producing the P27 at serial number 16000. Your gun with serial number in the 34000 range would place it around 1940 or early 1941.
This gun will have the same markings as the one shown above, and have a nice high polished finish as well. Please post some pics of this piece so we can see it.

Matt

[Sayle F]

cz 27

I cant post pics can someone do it for me?
Thanks,
KSF

[Steve z]

also the bottoms of the magazines are clearly marked "P. Mod. 27".
Overall a very nice piece, and I think that the P27 is a very good shooting gun as well. This baby shoots great!

I have one of those, with holster, issued to an SS-Rottenfuehrer Otto Koeppen, Feldpost Nr. 48786. It was surrendered near Schwannenstadt, Austria. Nice shooting weapon, I must agree!

Steve z.