Unknown mag...please help

[Ketil]

To me this looks like the normal British blanks in .308 (7,62 x 51) and the mag seems like one for the FAL (or L1A1).

[jotuntroll]

Fn-fal

[Simon O.]

Or rather the British version of it, the SLR in use up until the early 90s. Those are standard 7.62mm blank rounds. Some squaddie on exercise probably dropped it once upon a time though that's pretty heavy corrosion for something that's only been in the ground 30 years or less. As the date stamp on at least one of the rounds is 71 that likely puts it's loss sometime in the 70s.
http://www.deactivated-guns.co.uk/detail/762.htm

When i was in, losing a mag could get you put on a charge so some poor sod may have been fined for losing that.

[Viktor]

Yeah, someone got shouted at and lost their name over that....GET AWAY!!!... sorry , British Army Gag.... off to jankers....do not pass go, do not collect £200.

[rogerbh]

I cannot believe that I didn't think of the L1A1.

[tazpants]

Thanks for all the replies guys. I,m kinda dissapointed cause i was hoping it was of the period of the POW camp. It was found beside the perimeter fence about 4 inches down and with the state it was in i was pretty sure it had been in the ground for the correct timespan. It was found in Scotland at what used to be a POW camp, although after the war it was used by Army Cadets. I guess maybe one them dropped it. You would think you would realise you had dropped a full clip wouldn,t you. The camp has now closed but will be for sale soon as the MOD want rid of it, wish i had the money as it would make a great museum. Just look at the bottom of all my posts and you will see what camp i,m taking about.
Cheers for now,
DAVID

[nellyp51]

Bar

[vaughn99]

wish i saw this earlier

Man i whoud have gotton it on my first guess but a good way to brush up on mags!!!!! 100% FAL mag with .308 blanks.


vaughn

[Simon O.]

Man i whoud have gotton it on my first guess but a good way to brush up on mags!!!!! 100% FAL mag with .308 blanks.


vaughn

I don't mean to be pedantic but in the army it was called the SLR (self loading rifle and L1A1 on the paperwork) and the calibre 7.62mm. I know the weapon was a British version of the FN FAL but that isn't what it's called in Britain.

Tazpants

I think i know the camp you're talking about, you're talking of Cultybraggan aren't you? A place well known to many Brit squaddies. I remember when i was there being told it had been a POW camp for hardcore nazis. The place wasn't just used by cadets (they never used the SLR anyway so it wasn't one of them) but by both the regular army and TA. I seem to remember it being a real sh***hole of a place because the facilities hadn't changed much since the war.

If you have access to the whole place then you could try detecting around the accommodation huts, you'll probably only pick up post-war stuff but you never know, you may just find the odd German button or something.

[tazpants]

Simon, you are completely correct. The MOD are still in charge and it still hasn,t changed much since the 1940s. I have written to the MOD about detecting but its a complete no-no. This mag was found just outside the perimeter but at present the camp is under 24 hour security. Maybe once its been sold i will ask the new owners. Thanks for the replies.

[vaughn99]

Ok

Well your correction would be warranted IF i was talking ABOUT the rifle . I was talking about the MAGAZINE . So with all your corrections you were saying, they were pointless to the fact the same magazine was used on all the metric rifles FAL and varients. Good to see that you tried to look good but failed miserably due to not looking at the details of the thread, When you pointed specific difference between L1A1 and FN-FAL calibur ETC. You were trying to point out details and specific nomenclatures that had no bearing on the subjecct of. what mag is this?? its a FAL MAG its a L1A1 MAG its a STG58 MAG . regadless of country of origin.


thanks
vaughn

[Simon O.]

Well your correction would be warranted IF i was talking ABOUT the rifle . I was talking about the MAGAZINE . So with all your corrections you were saying, they were pointless to the fact the same magazine was used on all the metric rifles FAL and varients. Good to see that you tried to look good but failed miserably due to not looking at the details of the thread, When you pointed specific difference between L1A1 and FN-FAL calibur ETC. You were trying to point out details and specific nomenclatures that had no bearing on the subjecct of. what mag is this?? its a FAL MAG its a L1A1 MAG its a STG58 MAG . regadless of country of origin.


thanks
vaughn

I rather think you failed to look at the details of the thread. It's a British magazine for a British version of the rifle found in Britain by a Brit, what it's called in other countries is irrelevant just as what the calibre of the rounds are in imperial is irrelevant, which by the way were also produced in Britain. Best i think to call it by the name it's known by in the army in which it was used, same goes for the ammunition.

And, FWIW, i was trained on and used the weapon for many years. Never, not once was either the rifle or any of it's ancillaries (and a magazine is a part of the weapon FYI) reffered to as FAL anything. As for .308 blanks, you might like to know that in NATO we use metric, that includes the US and Britain, in the military they are not known as anything other than 7.62mm, even 7.62mm NATO.