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    Sniper rifle question.

    I have two questions. How can you tell if your K98k was ment to be a sniper?
    Question 2, What is a Double Claw sniper rifle.

    #2
    There is only one production German WWII sniper and it is the 'Long Side Rail'. If your 98k has an enlarged reciever and is coded "CE" or "BCD" and is not drilled for the scope base then it was intended to be a sniper but for whatever reason (usually accuracy problems) it was rejected.
    A double claw mount sniper is a configuration that has a mount that has two "claw" like male hooks that recess down into a female base that is milled out of the center of the reciever. It was a common sporting style base and mounting system employed on German and other European hunting rifles and drillings. It would sit up high to still allow the shooter to see through the mounts and use the iron sights.
    R.Blue

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      #3
      May I ask a related question; I thought that they took out rifles from normal production to be used as sniper rifles if they turned out to be very precise during production tests? Have I misunderstood something?

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        #4
        P08,
        Yes, rifles that were selected from regular production, like the turret mounts, were tested for accuracy.
        The "LSR" snipers were not regular production. They were designed as snipers. The theory is that if they were not accurate enough then they were not tapped for the base. Which has always made me wonder why they simply didn't change out the barrel.
        I have seen enlarged reciever rifles that were not tapped. A friend of mine has a Russian capture "CE" that was never tapped for the scope base.
        R.Blue

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          #5
          Originally posted by r.blue
          P08,
          Yes, rifles that were selected from regular production, like the turret mounts, were tested for accuracy.
          The "LSR" snipers were not regular production. They were designed as snipers. The theory is that if they were not accurate enough then they were not tapped for the base. Which has always made me wonder why they simply didn't change out the barrel.
          I have seen enlarged reciever rifles that were not tapped. A friend of mine has a Russian capture "CE" that was never tapped for the scope base.
          R.Blue
          Blue ; That theory is bunk. I have handled two and shot one of these never tapped LSR thick receivered 98k's. They both had key safeties , chekered buttplates , and had wood relived for LSR base. The one I shot would do excellent tight groups as any of the typical 98k's I owned back then did. It is more liklely these rifles were not able to get optics on them due to shortages of optics and or mounting systems. Thankfully both rifles are in the hands of honest collectors and will not be sold to nefarious types that have offered them big money ...you know why ...to put a scope on them for money & ego.

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            #6
            G98,
            I have to agree. It is interesting that they are around and not scoped up so it must have been something other than accuracy problems.
            There is no question that that has taken place. There are individuals that would love to get their hands on one of the virgin enlarged reciever rifles.
            R.Blue

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              #7
              For those interested, I know the guy from this site and believe me, his snipers are real beauties!

              www.mauserverzamelaars.tk

              Just keep clicking till you hit 'foto album' and enjoy

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                #8
                TK,

                Here are some photos of a K98 double claw sniper. This is not an original sniper, it's a MM one that I had made up of original WWII German parts. However, it was assembled correctly, and has the same look, feel, and performance of an original at a fraction of the cost.

                Enjoy!
                Matt
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                  #9
                  Here are the mounts for the double claw sniper. As someone previously stated, most of these mounts used, were of the 1930s' commercial variety. However, many were pressed into service. Most of these were asembled at ordance depots, or field armorers.

                  Notice the front mount is actually dovetailed into the top of the receiver ring. The rear mount is tapped and screwed to the aft bolt housing. The aft mount has a spring lock that can be pulled aft, and this releases the aft claws from the mount base, and also locks it in place when the scope is installed.

                  Matt

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                    #10
                    Sorry forgot the photo!
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                      #11
                      Here is a close up of the front mount. Notice the dovetail cut in the receiver ring. This is actually pretty tough to do!
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                        #12
                        Here is a photo of the entire rifle.

                        I personally like the double claw mount snipers. It's a good mounting system. I just think that it was more difficult and time consuming to do, versus the long side rail, or turret mounts.

                        Hope this answers your questions?

                        Matt
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