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    F.B. Radom VIS mod35

    Hello, I have had this in my collection for a few months and decided to share it on the forum. I'm not sure of the actual birth date but maybe someone can pin it down for me. I'm guessing 1943-44? The original Holster came with the purchase. This I believe is the type 3 VIS Model. Has the Waffen WaA77 stampings. The mag is also waffen stamped. Has a rough finish like the late run of the P38 CYQ. Grips are original to the pistol, no cracks.

    Sal
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      #3
      Nice looking VIS rig! Any markings inside the holster?

      Matt

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        #4
        Nice pistol, one of these has been on my want list for a while.

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          Originally posted by MP41 View Post
          Nice looking VIS rig! Any markings inside the holster?

          Matt
          Yes, but i cannot make them out.

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            #6
            Very nice late war Vis.
            Congratulations

            Jack

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              #7
              Originally posted by Spagg199th View Post
              Yes, but i cannot make them out.
              I understand. Most likely ink stamping inside the flap. These are often worn or faded away from age and wear. From what I can see I'd guess probably a "BNZ" holster, 1944 date. That's just a guess though.

              Nice rig!

              Matt

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                Originally posted by MP41 View Post
                I understand. Most likely ink stamping inside the flap. These are often worn or faded away from age and wear. From what I can see I'd guess probably a "BNZ" holster, 1944 date. That's just a guess though.

                Nice rig!

                Matt
                Matt, here is all I an make out. Eagle stamping (Waffenamt code WaA182?) BNZ?
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                  It could be a BNZ (most likely). However it could also be a "grz". Based on the pattern and stitching I'm going to stick with my BNZ guess. It's definatley 1944 date though, as this WaA inspector was assigned to that district in 1944. Thanks for showing.

                  Matt

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                    #10
                    Great rig!

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                      #11
                      Nice set! One of my favorite sidearms.

                      Unfortunately I sold mine years ago.
                      Willi

                      Preußens Gloria!

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                      Sapere aude

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                        #12
                        If you like the wartime Radom P.35 (and the pre-war Polish version), you will find this book to be very interesting.

                        BTW: The book includes details of the use of forced labor in the German production time, including instances of violent force employed against factory workers. The book also details measures taken by the Germans to prevent "leakage" of production into the hands of the Polish resistance (including executions of workers believed to be involved in aiding the resistance, coupled with transfer of final assembly work to the Steyr factory in Austria, using mostly Polish-made components).

                        In sum, my take-away (based on the information in this book - information which I presume is factually accurate) is that these wartime production Radoms might aptly be categorized as being amongst the most "Nazi" of any of the wartime German production small arms. I tend to avoid use of the term "Nazi" in discussions of the historical aspects of WWII German military issue firearms, but decided to make an exception when addressing the wartime production history of the Radom P.35. In sum, the wartime production Radoms have a very interesting (and, as noted, disturbing) history that makes them significant to anyone who studies the history of WWII German small arms procurement and service useage.
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                          Here is a good read about these weapons, I found this very interesting and shows the dark side of War time labor. Alan, I will look for this book! Thanks.


                          https://www.americanrifleman.org/art...man-occupation
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                            There are two holes on the trigger ?

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Scipion View Post
                              There are two holes on the trigger ?
                              No, just tooling marks. Here is another example of an early VIS. These late War weapons were rushed through like the later P38 CYQ's were.
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