Hey everyone so i had a buddy send me some pics of Byf 43 German k98 that he had some questions about, mainly the bolt. So the rifle is all matching down to the stock, receiver and even barrel bands. The bolt has some mystery to it tho. So the original serial number on the bolt body seems to be filed down and re engraved to match the rest of the rifle, however all other components of the bolt, the safety, shroud, firing pin and what not seem to have the same serial number and font, just the bolt body serial number seems a little off but the bolt body contains the Waf stamps and inspection stamps. If anyone could shed some light on what possible could have happened it would be greatly appreciated.
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Looks fine to me....The "file marks" are likely from the machining of the bolt root....The descrepency in number font is not usual, as number stamps used in the factories did vary....Bodes -
back part of the bolt.. the part that un-screws W/ FP is all factory numbered.
the bolt body has been re-numbered to match it and I assume the rest of the rifle as well. rookie attempt easy to spot.Comment
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Originally posted by MAUSER99 View Post
Yeah matches the rest of the rifle, but its odd because all other internal parts of the bolt like firing pin appear to have original factory markings so i wonder what happened to the original bolt bodyComment
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I don't believe I've ever seen just a bolt body/handle spuriously renumbered....How would such an occasion arise that would preclude the need?.....Only thing that readily comes to mind, is original number having transposed digits....Than somebody spuriously messed with it...Transposed or out of sequence serial number digits are not unsual....Another might be a salvaged bolt, renumbered and than put into service....But why not just put an unnumbered bolt body into service?...BodesComment
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Are the inspector numbers on the WaA stamps found on the bolt correct for the rifle?Comment
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Not quite sure how to tell but here’s the stamping of itOriginally posted by phild View PostComment
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Originally posted by MAUSER99 View Post
Came across this just now what are your thoughts maybe thats why the serial number font looks different?
FN Manufacturing made bolts for byf until late September, when the FN plant was overrrun. At that point, byf had to find bolts elsewhere. There are 3 main categories for bolt markings on byf guns- those with a "l" proof, those with no proof, and those with RW proof. Some 140 proof bolts may show up, but these were generally used up by December. The top flat finish will differ between each maker- some appear tall with mill marks, some appear flat and smooth. Examples of original byf bolt serials:Comment
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This rifle being made around August 1943 would not have been impacted by the September 44 cessation of FN supplied bolt bodies. I don’t know exactly what combination of bolt suppliers Mauser was using in this time
Frame of 1943 but I know 140 marked FN
Bolts were very dominant. Someone experienced in looking at a good
Number of g suffix 43 Mauser made
Rifles can tell if this one is correct or not. I can say that the safety is the correct machining for this maker and timeframe.Comment
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If this bolt body has been fiddled with, how would the original bolt be missing if all the internal matching parts are still present?
I have encountered several rifles like this in the last year, and at first I was highly suspicious. But I was convinced otherwise by some others. I think this rifle is ok.Willi
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Yeah i was wondering the same thing will, what could have possibly happened to the original bolt body if in fact this isn’t the original itself? If its worth mentioning this particular rifle does not have an import mark so most likely a vet bring back no?Originally posted by Willi Z. View PostComment
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I think it is fine also.Comment
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The serial on the bolt is fake, no question about it. The shroud and safety serial are originalComment
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