Max Show pickup, Chased Navy

[damasco]

Chet

I asked for opinions based on facts, in my opinion there hasn't been a post that has definitively proved that the scabbard is post war, a couple people have agreed with each other but offered no proof, have you any proof that it is post war??? I'm not sure I understand your post, all I've done is disagreed with there reasoning, I'm pretty sure I'm allowed to do that just as they are allowed to say what they think, if you bothered to read my posts I have thanked them for there comments, there is no animosity here certainly not on my behalf anyway.

Gary

Gary,
yes, you like it I get it.. I'm very surprised you do..
But please what are the (facts) about the scabbard being period.. You will find there are none as I said in my PM it is all opinion..
It seems a few Navy dagger collectors have made there observations and have been discounted by your reply.. OK it is their opinion based on what they see.
Gary,, If someone posts a picture of one like this being made of same or better detail would that be a fact ??? If someone said I have seen these scabbards being made.. Is that a fact or opinion?? Just trying to find out your definition of what (facts ) mean . As many people on this forum believe opinion falls under (facts)
Looking at a Holler scabbard in Tom W. Navy book and the huge difference in detail work is that a fact??? The scabbard is of the same pattern but a huge difference in detail (not finish) but detail.. And is that one period ?? (opinion ) in the book says yes..
Gary all you have to do is look at the scabbard... Who cares about the Ivory handle, fittings and blade ,, Look at the scabbard..
The moment I saw it at the show I knew what the scabbard was.. As that is where the money is or is not..
I hope this works out in a positive (what ever that may be) way but please do not put your head in the sand..
Their is no jealousy here matter of fact I do not like posting this as I consider you a friend fellow collector I see twice a year....

[Serge M.]

Gary,
Gary,, If someone posts a picture of one like this being made of same or better detail would that be a fact ??? Just trying to find out your definition of what (facts ) mean . As many people on this forum believe opinion falls under (facts)
....

Jim,
That would be a 'fact' for me, regardless what anyone else thinks. You happen to know where one could be found?

I heard on 'Good Authority' that these hand chased scabbards were being made by a faker in Germany and mated to otherwise standard daggers and then aged. Can you state if that is correct, and may this one maybe one of the fakers product ?

Thanks.
-Serge

[Frogprince]

While I've done some limited collecting of Naval swords and daggers, I'm not a specialist with one thing that has bothered me about this dagger is what seems to be a difference in the way some of the engraving has been performed. The Fouled Anchor appearing to be reasonably well done IMO the U-Boat is more amateurish. The slightly swept back periscope, shape of the hull and especially what appears to be 'limber holes' that seem to have a sort of "lazy S" appearance instead of conforming to the hull. Maybe it's just my own perception, but I'm having a problem believing they were done by the same engraver. FP

[Chet Sowersby]

Might someone be able show an accepted original scabbard?

Chet

[Schlange]

It never ceases to amaze me when members post a item up asking for opinions. Yet when one or more opinions are voiced to their disliking the member invariably falls back with something to the effect of "I'm comfortable with it" or some such reply. Begs the question, why even ask for opinions in the first place?

Chet

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Schlange

https://mojalbum.com/schlange88

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=916564

[Serge M.]

For comparison; Here is one on a previous thread that looks to me has similar engraving scabbard features to the posted dagger.
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=894933

-Serge

[Bulldog]

I thought i had seen something similar to this one before, looks like these have been knocked up post war with all sorts of fittings.

Russ.

[thebig]

Hi Gary,
by the way, are you sure that the grip of ivory is and not of flamed plastic?
Best,
Oleg.

[Saufaenger kid]

I must thank you all for your replies, despite what some may think I value all opinions, I don't always agree with them but that is what collecting is all about.

Oleg

I have done the hot pin test and it is not plastic so I think its safe to say it is Ivory.

Gary

[rob NL]

For comparison; Here is one on a previous thread that looks to me has similar engraving scabbard features to the posted dagger.
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=894933

-Serge

Yes, a similar fake.