Armydagger Alcoso prob.

[WaltherW]

Hello gents,

need your opinions for this Alcoso dagger.....

Are the parts of the grip matching ?

Thanks for your help

Best regards

WW

[Bulldog]

Generic B pommel and crossguard, not right for Alcoso.

Russ.

[Polizeidegen]

Alcoso and type B crossguard

See Exploring the Dress Daggers of the German Army, page 101.
Tom Wittmann shows Alcoso as one of the occasional users of the type B crossguard.

[Bulldog]

Guess anything is possible but Alcoso were one of the large manufacturers and produced their own guards right up to the end of the production period, finishing with their type 4 "high lift" guard in 42. Wardaggers cross guard reference site says the large companies did not use the generic B and it is also not shown or mentioned as a guard Alcoso used on Tom Kendell's reference site. Wittmann's army book was written a long time ago and is outdated.

Russ.

[Schlange]

IMO crossguard handle and pommel are taken from earlier Heer dagger produced by Anton Wingan Solinge.
Scabbard looks like Alcoso Solingen product.


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[Bulldog]

Depending on who you ask, this is either a Wingen guard or a generic B.

Russ.

[WaltherW]

here some pics of the scabbart...

[Bulldog]

I think the scabbard is Alcoso.
There is some difference of opinion among collectors whether the Wingen and Herder guards are just Generic Bs.

Russ.

[Jeff Nichols]

Alcoso was a user of the generic B types , so IMO this dagger is fine.

[Bulldog]

For reference to show Alcoso used the generic B cross guard can anyone show some examples, I have looked in 3 collections, 2 cross guard reference sites, 1 army book, some dealer's sites and archives and can not find one.

Russ.

[WaltherW]

Here a picture of another Army Dagger by Alcoso wich was bought straight from the vets family .....

he shows a not for alcoso typical crossguard...


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[WW2-Collector]

I am with Russ on this one not a combination I am comfortable with be a hard sell to me.