Dress bayonets help..

[cerick1450]

Hello
I have been offered both of these bayonets. First is unmarked, with nice blade, and solid handle. (No bayonet slot). The second is in better shape , maker marked, and has the opening for attaching to the rifle. It also has a partial Red felt in the opening. Any idea as what would be a reasonable price? Either one rare, or more desirable ?
Thanks

[Billy G]

I think the bayonets you describe are backwards in the pics. The one with a solid pommel & recurved (S shaped) crossguard is a Fireman's bayonet. The blade mark is of a distributor, Horst Wolff of Leipzig. The other bayonet is a standard KS98 model with a red felt plug denoting Army use.

Neither are scarce & they are plentiful on the collector market. Since they are not in super condition, I would suggest not buying them unless you can get them cheaply.

[AndyB]

The second one is Feuerwehr Fashinenmesser also a tool or Sidearm not a bayonet, as a bayonet should be mounted on rifle, first one a standard dress KS98. br.Andy

[cerick1450]

Yes, I did get them mixed up. I was able to pick up the k98 bayo very inexpensively.
Thank you for the help..

[cerick1450]

I noticed that there is a number on the Catch lug of the dress bayonet. It appears to be 335?? It is hard to photograph. Does this have nay significance?
Thank you

[Schlange]

These can be sign that these bayonet was produced in the TR earlier period.
The rivet configuration reminds me to E.u.F. Horster Solingen products.


Schlange

https://mojalbum.com/schlange88

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=916564

[cerick1450]

Thank you for the help. Is it the off set rivet configuration that makes you think it may be E.u.F. Horster Solingen? I have tried to look to see another with the rivets slightly off set, but have not been able to find an example.
Thank you.

[cerick1450]

I have looked at several web sites, and it does appear that the grip checkering pattern may indicate that it is an early war bayonet.