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    Diplomatic Dagger; opinions please.

    A friend of mine has this for sale for $7400. Is it original? Is it worth that? Thanks for your comments on this and all my other postings; you guys are great!

    Harvey
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    Obverse blade
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      Reverse hilt
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        Makers mark
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          maker mark and hilt close-up
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            #6
            Harvey,

            While reluctant to tell someone to spend their hard-earned money based on photos, I don't have a problem with the dagger or the price based on what I see here. Hate to sound like I'm being evasive, but sometimes you just gotta' touch 'em to be sure!

            Best,
            Skip

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              #7
              I agree with Skip. Based on the pics, all looks ok. But for that kind of money, I'd want an inspection period and return priviledges.

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                #8
                Thanks for the comments. The dagger comes with a return privilege and I've dealt a lot with the seller over the years. I just don't know if I want to be "into" daggers that are priced that high. Buying collectibles at those prices becomes less fun and more business. What do these normally sell for?

                Harvey

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                  #9
                  As you probably know, the dagger should have matching numbers on all the interior handle parts. These daggers are not that easy to take apart without scratching up the top of the handle and the odd, 2-hole nut. I'd want the current owner to take it apart and send photos of what - if any - markings are under the grips, crossguard, etc. The owner will know if you take it apart and will not likely honor the return privilidge if you don't like what you see.

                  Just my 2 cents worth.

                  Scott

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                    #10
                    That's actually a reasonable price for a Diplomatic dagger in the condition shown. If you like the dagger, but not the price, why not opt for a Government Official's dagger? Identical in all respects save for the crossguard eagle facing to the left instead of the right and at least two grand cheaper.

                    That's what I did!

                    Best,
                    Skip

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                      #11
                      Thanks Scott and Skip; that's good advice on both points. I doubt the seller would be willings to take it apart and provide photos of the parts and I also doubt he'd honor a return privilege if he knew I took it apart. Also, the Offical's daggers are just as atractive and much cheaper. Maybe I'll wait.

                      Again thanks,

                      Harvey

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                        #12
                        My question on this Diplo would concern how flat and lack of detail the wreath is. And take a look at where I have circled the wing tips. Check the crossguard in this area against something on a web site or reference book. Check the rings on that scabbard to see if they are magnetic. Also check the length of the blade to the scabbard to make sure that it all matches properly. It could just be the photos, an all is actually proper. I did an article on GDC on a convincing Dipo repo some time back. I believe the article is still there on their site.


                        JR
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                          JR makes a good observation. While I know for sure that crossguards such as this were hand-finished, the wing-tips here do exhibit a slight variation that warrants further investigation. Here are photos from one I currently have for sale - you can see how different the wing-tips are. The question for viewers here is, "Is the difference attributable to hand-finishing, or is it attributable to a different die?"
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