Dimplomatic dagger

[marisca lrommel]

From my point of view it is an authentic Diplomatic Dagger ... I would never have dared to dismantle it. In fact I have a government officer's dagger very similar to yours and I dare not dismantle it in case I break something or later I am not able to mount it well.

CongratulationsPulgares hacia arriba

[nickn]

Mass produced parts assembled by ordinary factory workers with very little hand fitting why would there be any problem carefully stripping and putting back together?

[Br. James]

Sorry, Nickn, but "ordinary factory workers" would have had the ongoing experience of assembling numbers of these daggers over time, and if anything went wrong or didn't fit properly at the factory, that piece would most likely have been sent back up the line for refitting at the time. Today, 75+ years after the fact, few of us have the experience to do what ordinary factory workers did every day, for a living. We have all seen daggers with the blade mounted in the grip backwards or the fittings replaced backwards or the nut stripped or the blade mis-mounted into the grip or... Indeed, these sorts of errors are often the source of such daggers being labeled "Frankensteins" -- parts daggers. And we've also seen how someone tried to innocently force a piece back together, thus chipping or cracking the grip material.

Whatever may be gained by dis-assembling a dagger or a sword cannot justify, IMHO, the possibility of damaging an artifact that has heretofore existed quite nicely for over seven decades!

Br. James

[MarcGB]

Mass produced parts assembled by ordinary factory workers with very little hand fitting why would there be any problem carefully stripping and putting back together?

Talking about german daggers? All my german pieces are in excellent shape after 80 years... don't get your point...

Cheers all,

Marc

[ebj]

Sorry, Nickn, but "ordinary factory workers" would have had the ongoing experience of assembling numbers of these daggers over time, and if anything went wrong or didn't fit properly at the factory, that piece would most likely have been sent back up the line for refitting at the time. Today, 75+ years after the fact, few of us have the experience to do what ordinary factory workers did every day, for a living. We have all seen daggers with the blade mounted in the grip backwards or the fittings replaced backwards or the nut stripped or the blade mis-mounted into the grip or... Indeed, these sorts of errors are often the source of such daggers being labeled "Frankensteins" -- parts daggers. And we've also seen how someone tried to innocently force a piece back together, thus chipping or cracking the grip material.

Whatever may be gained by dis-assembling a dagger or a sword cannot justify, IMHO, the possibility of damaging an artifact that has heretofore existed quite nicely for over seven decades!

Br. James

Especially Government and Diplomatic official daggers. They were very carefully fitted and assembled, that is why the parts are numbered. One can't compare these to, for example, the typical SA dagger. I will never disassemble my untouched GO dagger and I don't even disassemble SA or other daggers unless absolutely necessary.

[Serge M.]

When I'm considering a purchase of one of these, I always look first at the tang nut.
If I see scratches or damage to the nut or the eagles head, I don't want the dagger, no matter how nice it might be otherwise.

The collectors who collect these, pay a premium for examples that exhibit lack of signs of ever being disturbed.
However, some collectors buggered tang nut holes do not seem to bother as much.
It depends what's important to you.
That said, one must always consider the desirability to the future buyer, when you decide to sell it.

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[solo]

[QUOTE=Serge M.;7977251]When I'm considering a purchase of one of these, I always look first at the tang nut.
If I see scratches or damage to the nut or the eagles head, I don't want the dagger, no matter how nice it might be otherwise.



The daggers that have been posted have been tampered with. You need a special tool.
Carlo

[ebj]

Amen to what was just posted below by Serge M. and solo.

[Serge M.]

The daggers that have been posted have been tampered with. You need a special tool.
Carlo

Three of the daggers in my post have not been turned. Two have have been turned, once and perhaps twice.

Could you please post the tang nut area on your dagger ?

[nickn]

I bought a diplomat dagger with a smashed grip
And waited over 10 years to get a pair of grips
I made a tool starting with dowels that perfectly fitted the top nut holes and mounted them in a piece of flat steel stock
you would never know it's been apart

[ebj]

I bought a diplomat dagger with a smashed grip
And waited over 10 years to get a pair of grips
I made a tool starting with dowels that perfectly fitted the top nut holes and mounted them in a piece of flat steel stock
you would never know it's been apart

If and when you decide to sell it, will you explain this to potential buyers, so they will know what they are buying?

[nickn]

It's not for sale but I'll add a note so when I snuff it my wife or kids can tell the buyer
After a long hunt I found a de-nazified alcoso with a sharpened blade and missing it's scabbard but with perfect grips