Two unknown bayonets

[JensF.]

Hi,

maybe someone can help me with these two bajonets? The first one looks like a WWI K98k bayonet and is marked "1710" and "S. 178 G". The second one is WWI and marked "W 17" (Wilhelm II., 1917) and looks like it was shortened to be used as a trench dagger.

[JensF.]

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Nobody?

[Bill Grist]

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Nobody?

Both are German. The one on the top is a 84/98lll The G stands for 1935 the bottom is a 84/98ll World War 1 dated 1917 and the W is the cypher of Kaiser Wilhelm ll... It has been cut down..BILL