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    German Made Cossack Shaska

    I bought this today from a local antique shop. The dealer told me he had purchased it from an older couple who were originally from Germany. He was told that it was issued to Cossack collaborators and made by the Germans. Has anyone seen one of these before?

    It has a marking and serial number on the handle and blade. The markings are: V.F.5 and the serial number is: K7036. The bayonet has Soviet markings but a different serial number. I have attached photos below:


    https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/90961802@N08/26304519856/

    https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/90961802@N08/26238142682/

    https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/90961802@N08/26238071522/

    https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/90961802@N08/26264166001/

    https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/90961802@N08/26304450526/

    https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/90961802@N08/26057601030/

    https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/90961802@N08/26264367731/

    https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/90961802@N08/25725707944/

    https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/90961802@N08/26330581585/

    https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/90961802@N08/26057771830/

    https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/90961802@N08/26304619016/

    https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/90961802@N08/25725700834/

    https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/90961802@N08/26058039670/

    https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/90961802@N08/26304959456/


    I appreciate any opinions you may have. Thanks.
    Last edited by jasmof; 04-09-2016, 02:59 PM.
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    #2
    Still another dealer's "story" worthy of getting tossed in the trash can (IMO) . I have seen some very similar ones like this and they were all postwar Chinese or Asian manufacture. Sorry. FP

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      #3
      Originally posted by Frogprince View Post
      Still another dealer's "story" worthy of getting tossed in the trash can (IMO) . I have seen some very similar ones like this and they were all postwar Chinese or Asian manufacture. Sorry. FP
      Why do you think so?

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        #4
        Originally posted by jasmof View Post
        Why do you think so?
        I don't see much to be gained by going into details (for the fakers who are reading this) but I collect and still have my reference examples of both WW II and earlier German and Russian EM cavalry swords. Also having seen for sale from Asian websites many different versions of fake Cossack swords - including some supposed German ones. FP

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          #5
          Does anyone else feel this way? I just want to make sure before I try to get my money back. I can post more photos if needed.

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            #6
            I agree it is Chinese fake, very bad fake.

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              #7
              Look on eBay you will find that same sword and they are all coming out of China

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                #8
                Originally posted by rajko84 View Post
                Look on eBay you will find that same sword and they are all coming out of China
                Good suggestion. Short and and depending on what is for sale at the moment - educational. FP

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                  #9
                  Agreed its all very crude and coming from China...

                  http://www.ebay.com/itm/F272-HandMad...IAAOSwZG9WkaNm
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by NickG View Post
                    Agreed its all very crude and coming from China...

                    http://www.ebay.com/itm/F272-HandMad...IAAOSwZG9WkaNm


                    Sometimes having the Chinese bayonet swapped out for a Russian one usually in the U.S. (not uncommon) being added to the "story" (which is worthless). All in an effort by to try and convince a buyer that a supposedly TR period sword is legitimate. Passing along a suggestion to those who are interested in acquiring legitimate period items. Who are OK with doing a little homework/study of the combat arms of Germany and Russia - swords, rifles, bayonets, pistols etc. To see how they were made and marked which did change as both nations over time were severely stressed in creating arms for their military forces. FP

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                      #11
                      I dont see the pictures, but the scabbard looks suspicious like mentioned by others, the bayonet M91/30 is a origin postwar refurbishment, already avialable some years ago from romanian and ukrainian old depots. b.r.Andy

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                        #12
                        Thank you all for the help. I returned the sword this morning.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by jasmof View Post
                          Thank you all for the help. I returned the sword this morning.
                          Sometimes situations like this don't always end as well, so I'm really glad that everything worked out for you. With the attached (fairly scarce color) in use photo showing the German uniformed (mostly) Cossacks carrying their Shashkas on their persons via a diagonal strap, versus the German cavalry saddle mounted method. FP

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