Blade restoration question

[MKvams]

Hello!

Can this blade be restored by using semicrome or some other similar product?
Or maybe an oxalic bath?

In the right light the spots appear orange/brown. I'd hate for it to rust any more.

http://imageshack.com/a/img633/6655/JRWaLu.png
http://imageshack.com/a/img903/6593/3rxM6w.png
http://imageshack.com/a/img908/2263/KoN4qR.png
I hope someone will give me some good advice on the matter as to what is the best way to clean this blade.

[jujuy]

oxalic no.
Simichrome will work with a lot of patience with paper towel.
You'll have to clean till the moment the paper will not be blackened

Hello!

Can this blade be restored by using semicrome or some other similar product?
Or maybe an oxalic bath?

In the right light the spots appear orange/brown. I'd hate for it to rust any more.

http://imageshack.com/a/img633/6655/JRWaLu.png
http://imageshack.com/a/img903/6593/3rxM6w.png

I hope someone will give me some good advice on the matter as to what is the best way to clean this blade.

[MKvams]

Thank you for your answer!

Why not oxalic? I added a new picture showing the brown rust.

If I use semicrome will there be pits in the steel from where the rust were?

Will the crossgrain go away?

[jujuy]

With oxalic acid all the rust and pitting will go out and you'll have a visually pitted blade.
Will not happen with simichrome

Thank you for your answer!

Why not oxalic? I added a new picture showing the brown rust.

If I use semicrome will there be pits in the steel from where the rust were?

Will the crossgrain go away?

[Schlange]

With any cleaning you will destroy blade crossgrains. And lower the blade value.
My advice: leave it in same condition - and store dagger in some dray place. Metal corrosion occurs only with the presence of moisture.


Schlange

http://www.mojalbum.com/schlange88/albumi

[jujuy]

simichrome does not remove crossgraining unless you use it with sand paper.
such blade has a very low value in this condition and such oxidation will continue

With any cleaning you will destroy blade crossgrains. And lower the blade value.
My advice: leave it in same condition - and store dagger in some dray place. Metal corrosion occurs only with the presence of moisture.


Schlange

http://www.mojalbum.com/schlange88/albumi

[dutchdrummer]

simichrome does not remove crossgraining unless you use it with sand paper.

Wrong. Simichrome does remove crossgraining without sandpaper. Been there, done that.... And why would you use sandpaper on a blade??

[MrMiler]

What about flitz or autosol? Or maybe just some kind of oil?
Will this be less harmful to the crossgrain?

[geefal]

Everyone always says this. You do realize. Unless it is stored in a perfect vacuum, there is always SOME moisture in the air (even with desiccant you still can not achieve 100% moisture free air unless stored in vacuum). So NO MATTER WHAT OR HOW DRY YOU THINK THE AIR IS CORROSION WILL STILL CONTINUE ALBEIT VERY SLOWLY.

Unless you STOP the process, it will continue.

It is that freaking simple.

With any cleaning you will destroy blade crossgrains. And lower the blade value.
My advice: leave it in same condition - and store dagger in some dray place. Metal corrosion occurs only with the presence of moisture.


Schlange

http://www.mojalbum.com/schlange88/albumi

[Mac 66]

ACF-50 http://www.acf-50.co.uk/acf-50.htm

[nickn]

Everyone always says this. You do realize. Unless it is stored in a perfect vacuum, there is always SOME moisture in the air (even with desiccant you still can not achieve 100% moisture free air unless stored in vacuum). So NO MATTER WHAT OR HOW DRY YOU THINK THE AIR IS CORROSION WILL STILL CONTINUE ALBEIT VERY SLOWLY.

Unless you STOP the process, it will continue.

It is that freaking simple.

Spot on
I just don't understand the don't clean brigade

[Stu W]

That blade, and quite likely the dagger fittings, are perfect candidates for a Renaissance (Ren) Wax treatment. I'm with Nick on this, no point leaving it as is.

Regards,
Stu

[Stu W]

Forgot to mention ... don't use oil. It will attract dust/dirt and transfer it into the scabbard messing up the runners. Once the runners are mucked up you run a risk of scratching the blade when inserting or withdrawing it from the scabbard.

Regards,
Stu

[Stu W]

Wrong. Simichrome does remove crossgraining without sandpaper. Been there, done that.... And why would you use sandpaper on a blade??

I agree with this point of view. Simichrome, while useful in some circumstances, is not the optimum cleaner for all edged weapons.

Regards,
Stu

[MKvams]

It is very interesting to hear your opinions.
Must say, I'm torn as what to do...

Stu, I thought that Renwax was more for conserving a blade. Will it also remove the surfacerust that is on this blade?