Faschinenmesser Feuerwehr m. Säge, Tiger

[Gene]

Hi, mates !

In the periodical publication
Uniformen - Markt
7. Jahrgang Folge 4
Berlin, 15. Februar 1940

you can find an article under the title:
Neues an der Uniform Freiwillige Feuerwehr


There´re also two images of the Faschinenmesser, (yes, mates, termed as Faschinenmesser actually !), specified:

Kurzes Faschinenmesser
(Gesamtlänge 35cm)
vom Haupttruppführer aufwärts

and:

Langes Faschinenmesser
(Gesamtlänge 40cm)
für Anwärter bis Obertruppführer

I hope, it helps !

Best regards,
R.

Any mention of the sawback's teeth and the direction they're facing? I'd like to find the significance of this if it was documented, thanks

[Billy G]

Here's a sawback dagger, I believe it's in the Eickhorn catalogue as model #916 with the dual hanger rings, as opposed to a frog lug.

[Billy G]

With the so-called "triple oval" maker mark.

[Billy G]

And a presented blade.

[Billy G]

But there's also some sawback bayonets as well. Sometimes you can even find a rare maker, like an early Henckels Zwillingswerk or a Hackwerke Steyr. Sawbacks will always get the attention of blade guys but bayonets generally don't have the following daggers do, for whatever reason.

[Gene]

Is it a manufacturing detail or is there any significance to short tooth/long tooth sawbacks?

[Billy G]

Gene,

I believe the shape of the sawteeth was somewhat specific on certain makers. You'll find several types out there on period examples but take care not to get stung by a postwar embellished piece as they are out there. Typically close examination will show a lack of quality to the addition of the sawteeth.

[Frogprince]

Hi, mates !
In the periodical publication
Uniformen - Markt
7. Jahrgang Folge 4
Berlin, 15. Februar 1940
you can find an article under the title:
Neues an der Uniform Freiwillige Feuerwehr
There´re also two images of the Faschinenmesser, (yes, mates, termed as Faschinenmesser actually !), specified:
Kurzes Faschinenmesser
(Gesamtlänge 35cm)
vom Haupttruppführer aufwärts
and:
Langes Faschinenmesser
(Gesamtlänge 40cm)
für Anwärter bis Obertruppführer
I hope, it helps !
Best regards,
R.

Reibert, Thank you for the information from Uniformen - Markt. A small sampling of period catalogs shows the same kind of differentiation with a somewhat different rank structure, and the inclusion of swords for officers and some others. Also the fact that at least one maker charged .60RM for the optional saw back type blade. What is still not clear to me is where did the tradition of using a German (state) Army pioneer type of sidearm for Fire Departments come from? Because in the Imperial era it seems to have been daggers. FP

[Gene]

No intentions of acquiring another sawback (not a blade collector) unless another vet grouping appears and one is included. I'm learning a lot here, just wish there was more mention or experience with, the type of sawback I have. Let's see what unfolds--

[jancz3rt]

Beautiful fire bayonet sawback, congratulations! Interesting to read about the terminology discussed, it's new to me and very educational.