WK&C sawback bayonet, unmarked

[mchap]

I could use some help pinpointing what era this bayonet is from. I've gone through the different sawback threads and I think the bayonet is WW1 vintage, although Im interested in getting some WAF feedback.

Other than the WK & C marking, no Imperial, TR markings or numbers exist. There is no fancy stuff done like plating, doubt its a dress piece.

The frog is stamped "Poeschl, Rohrbach, 1940" on the back... but it is possible the bayonet, troddel and frog are not homogenous.

My question is, without markings what era do you think its from?

note: clicking on the photo will take you to photobucket where there is a small magnifying glass at the lower right corner..
you can zoom x2. Apologies for the blurry close ups, its time for a new camera.

Thanks in advance.

[SCHUPO]

You have an Imperial period KS98 sawback bayonet. The mounted enlisted bayonet is for a S84/98 and is later than the bayonet. The Troddel is for a NCO.

[AndyB]

Schupo is right, he means probably the frog is for combat S84/98 of WW2 period, the bayonet itself is probably a WW1 dress KS98.

[mchap]

Hi Schupo and Andy, very pleased to get replies from you.
If I could afford a copy of Shupo's book right now I'd be all over it, all in good time... but I am pleased to be able to add this to my Imperial/WW1 collection.

If I may, a couple more questions have cropped up since starting this thread.

I've read that this type of bayonet was issued to MG units prior to and during the war. I can see a practical use for the sawback, is this a known fact or speculation?
The information was culled from this nicely laid out website:
http://pommerschespionier.com/index....-seitengewehr/
and, the Imperial War Museum
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/30000700

I am also curious why there are no Imperial markings anywhere. Perhaps it was "cleaned up" during the Weimar period but never issued?

Thank you Gentlemen for your help. It is appreciated!

For anyone that stumbles onto this thread while researching. Here is a helpful, pre-WW1 Troddel diagram

[AndyB]

The bayonet itself has no proofs as its a dress piece not a combat bayonet, the WKC stamps are clear, You should proof it on rifle, but some are not attachable, the sawback version was used by NCOs. the sawback had use on larger S98/02 or S98/05 blades, as pioneer equipment. The scabbard has remains of paint and the pommel as steel is rusted and maybe there was a blueing or darkening of surface, it must be not nickled as dress piece.

[Saufaenger kid]

Looking at the knot that is pictured with this bayonet I would assume it has some kind of Garde Jäger or Schützen connection, not easy to find sawbacks from this period.

Gary

[mchap]

Saufaenger kid - the color of the knot is definitely blue and silver, I'll do some further homework on it.

AndyB - when I locate a proper rifle I'll give it a test. It has all the mechanisms to be a functional weapon, it also matches up with an '09 export bayonet that at one time was attached to a 98 I use to own. The paint is a good point... I dont recall ever seeing semi gloss on combat scabbards.

I appreciate the feedback!