Was it one with that same text on the blade? And if so some pictures would have been incredible! Thank you for the help.
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When I saw it I assumed it was an Ss dager in an sa scabbard
I am not sure what happened to Harvey's collection when he died
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Awesome!
My granpa has a knife that fits this description: NSKK Kraftbootstandarte ("Power Boat" Standarte) = brown grip, black scabbard, gilt crossguards & fittings.
It has " Alles fur deutschland " on one side of the blade and "Dem Sturmführer im Stab der Staffel 1 der kraftbootstandarte 1" on the other side.
I will take some pictures when i visit him in the coming week.
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Great discussion, guys! But we need to see pics. Otherwise it's impossible to say whether these daggers are good or not! Looking forward to see some pics
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Quick update:
Newly aquired information regarding the NSKK Kraftboot dagger.
It has 1936 engraved on the pommel screw and it also has the maker mark of Eickhorn on the blade. Pictures and more details will be posted in about one week .
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Sorry,Originally posted by Jim's Militaria View PostThat's what I love about dedication daggers, no matter what there will always be someone, somewhere, at sometime that doesn't like something about them.
The person that I got it from found it rotting away in the basement of the vet (that brought it home) after he passed away.
A lot of people examined it in hand and had no problems with it. Either you like it or you don't.
i don't like the word "Liebe" or love.Thats unusually! In love !? from men to mens.Ok,we often reads :"meinem lieben .... ",but the meaning is an other than "Liebe-Love"!
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I have a chained NSKK marine in my collection made by Eickhorn. It has a black grip.
Whenever I met and spoke with Harvey the discussion about these daggers was always interesting. He was of the opinion, having had so many, that the grip was always black and in some cases a brown grip has been re-coloured.
I also steer well clear of any base item that has a dedication "IF IT HAS NOT BEEN SEEN BEFORE!!" there are some daggers in collections that have been doing the circuit for a long time and most i do not take issue with. The term out of the woodwork and attic stash is wearing thin. The digital era has changed the way we do business and research for ever. I am certain that most of what we expect to find has already been discovered. The problem is as these items become more expensive the opportunist will attempt to fleece the unwary.
Buyer beware.
Happy collecting. I will be at the Military Odyssey in Detling (UK) this coming bank holiday displaying some fine items from my collection that are for sale. Four days of heaven!!Comment
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Due to come out in a book someday....Originally posted by ivbaust View PostGreat discussion, guys! But we need to see pics. Otherwise it's impossible to say whether these daggers are good or not! Looking forward to see some pics
it's a period gold plated NSKK, not a Vet Den Lucky Strike dagger.
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Even the 'D' ring is plated and RZM stamped.
Sorry the photos are not good.
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Great Serge, a one lookerComment
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Hi Serge M.
I am not a dagger specialist, but nskk Kraftboote units are supposed to wear the chained dagger since at least the well known "Organisationsbuch der NSDAP 1936" (OB 1936).
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All those daggers I have seen are totally or partially fakes and the engraving "Dem Sturmführer im Stab der Staffel 1 der kraftbootstandarte 1" are postwar additions. The text is copied from the books OB 1936 and 1937My granpa has a knife that fits this description: NSKK Kraftbootstandarte ("Power Boat" Standarte) = brown grip, black scabbard, gilt crossguards & fittings.
It has " Alles fur deutschland " on one side of the blade and "Dem Sturmführer im Stab der Staffel 1 der kraftbootstandarte 1" on the other side.
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Hello Guymauve,Originally posted by Guymauve View Post
There are very few specialists in the dagger field that are experts on all varieties of the SA/NSKK marine daggers.
Even on the well known produced chained marine NSKK there were two different gold/copper plating produced. The rare one was actually a thin plated coat of copper finish on the early examples. Here is one maker marked 'Gebruder Heller' next to the later produced chained marine by Eickhorn 1940.
Few daggers collectors as aware of this early variant.
Now, on the M.33 NSKK Marine, even fewer know of it. First one I have seen, and thankfully complete with a triple hanger where all metal fittings are also plated.
Not every variant is shown in books or even period publications. The M.33 NSKK marine was examined by Tom Wittmann who stated it was the first one he has seen of this type (no question on originality as it's a 'one looker').
This is all part of the intriguing mystery of this hobby, we can never know it all and no one has seen it all. That said, when a unknown mystery dagger surfaces we all like to see some documentation or explanation for it, as that's what we all want to know, just to get a full picture. Unfortunately, in my experience and opinion, we will never get all the pieces to the puzzle to complete the full picture. On occasion a rare piece shows up out of the woodwork and it's up to researching collectors to try to see what if anything they can find to try to fit that small piece into the vast puzzle.
Best of Hunt,
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Hello Serge M
it was just a reminder of the regulations.
Thank you for reminding me of the different variants of the M36 Kb, but rest assured; they remain in my memory.
I have no explanation for your golden dagger. Found you in a lot, other things with? Something that could help?
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