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**tranchant** · 11-17-2012, 03:34 AM

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hello john
i thin an ss bajonet portepee! just my opinion!
an splendid portepe!
best regards
patrick

**jwh44** · 11-17-2012, 06:04 AM

Hello
I would think to the Bahnshutz.....??
Regards
Alain

**SCHUPO** · 11-17-2012, 10:21 AM

This is an interesting bayonet Troddel that does not have any regulations that have been found yet. The pop up from time to time. I do agree with Alain that it is most probably a Bahnschutz Troddel.

**Sleepwalker** · 11-17-2012, 04:32 PM

Hello,

no...this is not a Bahnschutz Troddel... and this is not a SS Troddel

all of these are totally different...

With three lines of black stitching in the band... IMO this is a privat prussion Knot

with two lines of black stitching in the band this is a Knot of an armourer (master).

**daggers** · 11-18-2012, 06:42 AM

@sleepwalker: "no...this is not a Bahnschutz Troddel... and this is not a SS Troddel
all of these are totally different..."

Three black lines in the band ALSO have <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal</w:View> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <w:TrackMoves/> <w:TrackFormatting/> <w:HyphenationZone>21</w:HyphenationZone> <w:PunctuationKerning/> <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas/> <w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>false</w:SaveIfXMLInvalid> <w:IgnoreMixedContent>false</w:IgnoreMixedContent> <w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false</w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText> <w

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There are also period wearing photographs of such a troddel as I do describe.
I do own one in real and wearing pics but cannot post pics here.
Greetings, daggers.

**Sleepwalker** · 11-18-2012, 03:52 PM

The SS Knot for NCO was made out of aluminium... and has a totally different look.

the SS knots always have two black lines... not three...

this one is a private purchased Prussian NCO knot for walking out reasons.

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