Full Rohm SA Dagger Opinions Please

[Adrian Stevenson]

Hi Kurt, thanks for adding the extra photo that I requested.

I am sorry, but it sadly confirms my suspicions; the blade is a repro. The maker mark is far too high on the blade. I thought I had a photo on file of mine, but I don't seem to have one. If no one can post a good one to show you, I will take a photo for you, but it will be next week. The rest of the dagger looks good.

Cheers, Ade.

[Kurt A.]

Thanks again, Ade. This proves it's important to look past the nice looking handle.

Kurt

[Erich B.]

Looks like there are other problems as well, and the engraving on the scabbard is definitely not period.
Erich

[SADagger]

I just looked thru Wittmanns SS dagger book. In there they show a full Rohm SS dagger that has the larger Eickhorn trade mark and it looks farther away from the cross guard than the small maker marked ones. Since Eickhorn mabe both , SS and SA Rohm daggers I wouldnt discount this due to the distance of the MM to the Guard.

[Erich B.]

There are more problems with this piece than the trademark.
Erich

[Raymond]

When the small trade mark was used it was about 2mm from the cross guard.Only the large trade mark was further away.There is also too sharp a central ridge on the blade.Early blades had a softer,rounder central ridge.This one is more like an RZM blade,which is impossible for a Röhm blade.Someone took an original early dagger and replaced the blade with a repro .

Ray

[Kurt A.]

Thanks again for everyone's input! If anyone has an early SA dagger with a totally screwed-up handle and no scabbard, I'm in the market for it!

Kurt

[Larry Lipps]

Kurt, if you're looking for a plain, original, SA blade, Tom Johnson usually has a couple on his site. There was often a lot of hand fitting involved, so it's usually not just plug and play. His site is www.ww2daggers.com should you want to browse around. Good luck with your project.

[lakesidetrader]

Erich, Could you please expand on your not liking the engraving on the scabbard.

[Erich B.]

Sure--the style of lettering used, the spacing between the letters, and the use of all capitals look modern U.S.--the type of engraving a trophy shop does with a pantograph--not German pre45 style. I've seen many many engraved and etched III Reich pieces, and IMO this is not one of them.
Erich

[jray2986]

Full Rohm SA Dagger Opinions Please

Its looks like a repo to me