Fake F.W. Holler Dagger

[DonC]

Hello, All -

I realize that almost anythig TR-related has been reproduced, but I was wondering if anyone had any specific knowledge as to whether or not there are fake F.W. Holler marked daggers floating about?

Any assistance is appreciated!

Don

[David C]

Yep, there are definitely fake Holler 2nd pattern lufts about.

The easy to spot ones are marked Berlin as opposed to Solingen.

The fakes marked Solingen have poor definition to the graduations in the thermometer and/or the incorrect number of grads.

Cheers,
David.

[Skipper Greenwade]

Fred Stephens references post-war Holler trademarks in the first edition of Reproduction? Recognition!, which was published in 1976, so they've been suspect for almost thirty years now.

As Don notes, just about everything has been faked by now.

Best,
Skip

[DonC]

Thanks, All-

The blade in question is an Army model. I will check it out!

Don

[phosphateb]

guys what does TR stand for?

[Oleg]

Hi! Here is a blade Fake F.W. Holler Army Dagger

I hope, that it's something will help

[Hank C.]

guys what does TR stand for?

Third Reich

Hank

[phosphateb]

Third Reich

Hank

hank thanks.....duh stupid me :-) thought u were talking about tara romainia or something!

[SwordFish]

I have come accross Holler fake 1st patern Lufts. As previously stated, thermometer grades are of very poor definition. Also, in the fake 1st pattern, scabbard leather was a very light blue vs. the dark blue Morrocan leather. Scabbard fitting screws were bad. Overall, the fake Holler 1st patterns are very easy to identify. Fake Hollers are not always marked Berlin, sometimes you'll see them Solinger marked.

Best,

[DonC]

Thanks, Guys -

The army dagger is marked "Berlin". Saved my $20 on membership dues right there! I may still buy it as an example if the price is right.

Don