Herder tradmarks

[wolfman]

Can anyone tell me how many seperate genuine Richard Herder
trademarks are out there. So far I have seen the large one in the circle and reference to another with the ace of spades is there any others.

[JohnZ]

wolfman:

Friedrich Herder used the Ace of Spades TM as well as the crossed keys.

H. Herder also used an Ace of Spades mark.

Richard Abr. Herder used a diamond shaped mark. The first one is the commonly seen one, the second, no oval mark, is harder to find. These two are on Luft2s in my collection.

There are other versions I have seen on bayonets, with the name spelled out.

[JohnZ]

Here is the one that I have on a bayonet.

John

[Billy G]

So far as bayonets go, this is the only Herder mark I'm aware of, same as John's.

[wolfman]

Hi John Z & Billy G

Thanks for the response. I was looking at the no oval mark but I had not seen this before. Pictures were of great help in my future purchase.
Thanks Again