opininions neededmon Zeitler Luft

[peterwyndavies]

I have seen this Luftwaffe dagger marked Zeitler, and would be grateful for opinions as to whether it is genuine. Unfortunately I do not have a picture of the maker's mark. I attach all the pictures that I have.
Thanks,
Peter.

[peterwyndavies]

Another couple of pics.

[rajko84]

IMO it is original, only thing is the handle is different, looks like it is maybe from some different dagger.

[peterwyndavies]

Hi rajko,
Thanks for your advice. I am told that the word wien is indistinctly seen under the word zeitler.
Thanks,
Peter.

[JohnZ]

Peter:

Can you post pics of the maker mark?

John

[peterwyndavies]

Hi John,
I won't have a pic of the maker's mark until next week, but I think that it is just the name Zeitler over an indistinct word which could be Wien, stamped into the blade.
Thanks,
Peter.

[Nolan]

IMO it is original, only thing is the handle is different, looks like it is maybe from some different dagger.

What makes you say that??

[rajko84]

What makes you say that??

From the pics looks thinner then normal one. It could be just pics too.

[777]

Dagger looks to be OK. I agree the handle is bit "slim", but it can be typical for Zeitler LW daggers. Too bad I don't have any Zeitler close at hand to compare, nevertheless the handle doesn't look postwar to me.

[rajko84]

Dagger looks to be OK. I agree the handle is bit "slim", but it can be typical for Zeitler LW daggers. Too bad I don't have any Zeitler close at hand to compare, nevertheless the handle doesn't look postwar to me.

I did not mean that it is a post war just that is maybe from different dagger. But I never had that maker before so it can just be specific for this maker. I learn new things every day.

[peterwyndavies]

Thanks Nolan, rajko and 777.
I had never heard of Zeitler before this dagger came up. I cannot get pics of the maker's mark until the end of next week. I am somewhat concerned that he is not listed by Wittman. I assume that means not listed as a maker of Luftwaffe Daggers, rather than daggers altogether.
I note that his name has come up a few times on blades in this forum.
Thanks,
Peter.

[peterwyndavies]

Just thought that I would explain that I saw thie comment that he was not listed by Wittman in another comment in this forum on a thread where Zeitler came up. Sorry don't know how to insert links to threads.
Thanks again,
Peter.

[Nolan]

I remember quite some time ago Mike Hansen showing on GDC a 2nd Luft with an almost parallel grip, I don't think there is anything wrong with the piece, not the best, but looks all original to me.

[peterwyndavies]

Thanks Nolan,
Peter.

[Nolan]

Peter:

Can you post pics of the maker mark?

John

Won't be a 'maker' mark, IMO Zeitler would be a 'distributor' mark.