SS RZM 1051 maaker question

[hs132]

Hello, I have my doubts about this marking, just doesnt seem right. All comments appreciated. Best, Bill

[hs132]

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[777]

Check for the "kissing cranes" on the tang, if they are there, it is a good sign (but not a proof). The logo looks correct, but these RZM Klaas daggers are being faked in Czech, so I'm always carefull when I see this maker. I would expect different grip shape here, this one doesn't look like other late Klaas grips known to me. It would be interesting to see the motto as well. It's hard to tell anything for 100% without "hands on" examination, but there is something strange about the handle IMHO.

[hs132]

Hello, thank you very much for the help. Will get another look at it tomarrow. The technique of the RZM numbering just looks superficial and rough. Best, Bill

[hs132]

Hello, a few more pics but Im now of the belief its a post war parts piece. Thanks, Bill

[Rheingold]

Wrong motto for this RZM-Piece.

Grip and SS-chip looks post war also.


Regards,

[Bob Hartman]

It doesn't look like the motto is plumb to the blade. Check out the loops in the e's.

[hs132]

Hello, thanks for the help. It just didnt seem right . Best, Bill

[juoneen]

Marks were a little off on this type, as look at the rzm its not perfectly in the middle, as i have a 1051 38, and the minor differences are maybe the ones have tops, and the 7's have hooks on the ends with a curved bottom end. . They may fake em, but Of course id like to see clearer shots of the handle , as it may have been replaced , but the original 38 i have is more off on the front enscription than this one. Anybody have a 39 1051 to compare makers marks to? I can post the 38, but i'm not sure they couldn't have varied somewhat. That would be interesting to check. Even the enscription matches very closely. Ill see if ic an get photos .

[juoneen]

[juoneen]

Differences in 7's 5, 1 has tops on this one, and the 3 are rounded , but we have seen medals makers round 3's on marks and have it accepted. ...here's the emblems on the handle to compare as i believe the handle is replaced with a later handle, and as stated possibly post war ss emblem.

[juoneen]

[juoneen]

This one starts up a little higher, then drops a little lower at the end, but still an original, so im not so sure about that argument, but if we had another original 39 that would clinch it.

[juoneen]

from higher up on the left

[juoneen]

to lower on the right.