This sword has an eagle variation I haven't seen - an outspread eagle as opposed to an army style eagle. Swords are definitely not my strong area - is this just a style variation, or does it have some significance as to branch of service?
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It is a style variation.
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The owner says it is unmarked.Comment
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There is a chance that a member SwordFish will know who is the maker, he is expert in heer sabers.
How much is the seller asking for it?Comment
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He's holding onto everything he's got right now, but might consider pricing some items in the future.Comment
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In my opinion what I can see, this sword should be 400-450 range. But like I said SwordFish would know more.Originally posted by checkit View PostComment
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I'll take a "stab" at it..but I don't qualify as an expert. Just a cat who enjoy Heer sabers.
Ok, here we go. This is always an interesting topic. It's classified as a "Baron" and can be found in Angolia. These are found both marked and unmarked. However, we know that the langet design is clearly attributed to the Horster firm. To this point, I don't know if we've ever had any resolution with regards to who we should truly attribute the piece to. It's been speculated that the Baron marking might be some sort of reseller or distributer, possibly linked exclusively to Horster. Baron may simply use Horster P-guard/crossguard/langet assembly with backstrap/pommel ferrule and such to other manufacturers.
We know this piece is a "Baron", but beyond that, I just cannot elaborate any further as it relates to the lineage of the Baron pieces. Perhaps another of my saber collecting peers may have a bit more on the Baron patterns.
Value has been discussed and I think you guys are in the general neighborhood. Give or take, depending on various factors..condition, market conditions, and so forth.
We don't see these pop up too often so when they do, seeing it is always neat.
Good collecting,
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Tom,
Speaking entirely with respect to dress bayonets, the Baron mark has been linked to Gottfried Weyersberg Söhne KG, Solingen. Denny Gaither & Terry Kissenger found the link by chance. Baron usually used just the name as a mark however they occasionally used a mark with a trophy cup with 3 stars. Someone found an SA with the Weyersberg name & the trophycup mark. Best guess is it's either a distributor for Weyersberg or a brand name.Comment
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Billy,
That's interesting. The only saber patterns i've seen or heard of from others, always involve the Horster firm.
I would really like to solve this riddle. Based on your experience, I would then surmise it's simply a distributer. It makes me wonder if Baron exclusively utilized only specific manufacturers for their resale pieces.
Good information Bill, it adds another piece to the puzzle.
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Tom,
Always happy to help
I think there's a good discussion of the Baron mark(s) on the "fire bayonet thread" on the BCN forum over at GD. At least there was on the old fire bayonet thread before it evaporated into the ether.
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"There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge and I knew we'd get into that rotten stuff pretty soon . . ."- Hunter S. Thompson 1971Originally posted by Billy G View Post
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