Opinion needed on a ss blade ?

[Pascal Bernhard]

Here-with pics of a really too much cleaned blade

(15/39 SS = J.A. Henckels/Ed Wüsthof Solingen)

Nevertheless could somebody perhaps tell me an opinion if it's a spanish fake or perhaphs a good one...

Thanks for help.

Pascal.

[Pascal Bernhard]

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[Pascal Bernhard]

last one ...

[Mainemilitaria]

The RZM marking looks bad to me.....
See what the others say...but this one I'd pass on (based on the RZM markings).
John G.

[addyfie]

i neither like the maker mark , looks a little strange i dont think if way overcleaned it would look like this but i am no expert !!! here is mine for comparison

[lakesidetrader]

Hi Pascal, This blade has been buffed so hard it's pretty much beyond collectibility. The other thing that concerns me is that in view #2 you have a beauty shiney lower crossguard and in view #3 they both appear quite corroded...
Not sure what's going on there but this is not the kind of piece that you will be happy with long term.

[Rheingold]

15/39

I would stay away from that one.

TM is not right. IMO

How far is the motto placed to the X-Guard?
Regards

[addyfie]

lookin at it again it does look very similar to mine but as stated the mark looks a little far from the xguard in the 1st pic, i dont think i have ever seen one that has been overcleaned like this someone has scrubbed the hell out of it , also as Paul says the x guard on pic2 doesnt look like the xguard on the last pic? strange
regards Adam

[Rheingold]

@addyfie,
how far is your motto placed from the XGuard?
The 15/39 code looks a little bit to far from the RZM-Circle

Perhaps the pic's

[Pascal Bernhard]

Hi Pascal, This blade has been buffed so hard it's pretty much beyond collectibility. The other thing that concerns me is that in view #2 you have a beauty shiney lower crossguard and in view #3 they both appear quite corroded...
Not sure what's going on there but this is not the kind of piece that you will be happy with long term.

Hi Paul,
Of course is this blade not for my collection

But it's only to know if it could be possible this one could be an original
Al of the components are overcleaned by someone who didn't know what he did...

This SS blade is currently on a NSKK dagger. IMO (after inspection of the other components) seam to be a "Hartkopf & Co" NSKK dagger.

Of course it's a part dagger , but, as said, was only curious if the added blade, even if hardly overcleaned, could be an original 15/39 SS.

Thanks
Pascal.

[Pascal Bernhard]

@addyfie,
how far is your motto placed from the XGuard?
The 15/39 code looks a little bit to far from the RZM-Circle

Perhaps the pic's

- 16 mm between base of "15/39" markings end the end of the blade
- 32 mm between the last "E" of "TreuE" and the end of the blade (without Xguard).

[addyfie]

I will have a measure in a bit guys if i can find my steel ruler i am sure when it was discussed on gd.com it was almost 30 mm not the normal 25mm which i was told is correct for the henckels transitional... I will find out shortly
regards Adam

[addyfie]

Here are the pics guys couldnt find my steel ruler so my tape measure will have to do, I have also around 30mm from end of blade to E in the motto the other measurment you should be able to see for yourselves.
Cheers Adam

[Rheingold]

I will have a measure in a bit guys if i can find my steel ruler i am sure when it was discussed on gd.com it was almost 30 mm not the normal 25mm which i was told is correct for the henckels transitional... I will find out shortly
regards Adam

That's right Adam.

Thx Adam & Pascal

[Pascal Bernhard]

Thanks a lot for the opinions