98/05 removed sawback bayonet

[grip3846]

Hi,
Just got this one recently. A very very nicely kept 98/05 "Butcher Blade" with the saw back removed.These don't turn up very often. Nice early scabbard and with a good maker too. Hope you enjoy.
Regards,Ivan

[grip3846]

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[Reibert-Austria]

Nice bayo !

The blade´s new blued and used in the "Reichswehr"

BTW.: the bayo is an "n.A.", the scabbard´s known in use with an "a.A." ...

[grip3846]

Thanks

Nice bayo !

The blade´s new blued and used in the "Reichswehr"

BTW.: the bayo is an "n.A.", the scabbard´s known in use with an "a.A." ...

Hi,
Thanks for the info,can you possibly explain a bit more about the bayonets history and why the "n.A." and a.A." I have not heard of these terms before.
Regards,Ivan

[Richie B]

Ivan

aA = alter Art - old type - no flash guard - more pronounced half muzzle ring.

nA = neuer Art - new type - flashguard - very slight "ears".

Transitional models with mixed features also exist.

Changes started in 1915. Applied to new production and modifications to exiting bayonets.

Steel/Leather scabbard - original issue -replaced by all steel model.

Your bayonet was originally issued in WW1 - is there a date on the blade back near the hilt ?

Blades were originally bright metal. Post WW1, these were used by the Reichswehr - their bayonets had a blued finish.

On the crossguard I think I can see the remains of the 1920 stamp which also shows use in the Reichswehr period.

The sawbacks were removed by order in 1917 - this applied to those in front line service which explains why sawbacks still exist today.

Finally - the maker combination is a rare one especially Becker.

Very nice bayonet with a lot of history behind it.

Regards

Richie

[grip3846]

Hi Richie,
Thanks for the info,I knew of the scabbard and wing variations but was confused re the aA etc,having said that,the way you explained it all has made it so much clearer for me,so thanks for that. There is no date on the spine,just 2 what look like Prussian heraldic symbols,I will photograph them outside tommorow. There is the remnants of the 1920 on the crossguard.
Regards,Ivan

[Richie B]

Ivan

The marks you describe are inspection stamps - a crown and a single letter.

One mark may be from the original manufacture and the other following the work on the blade back.

The lack of date is nothing to worry about - some were undated and some were removed when the sawback was ground off.

Regards

Richie