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    What do you think abouth this one?
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    #2
    Yes, it's a sword.










    What exactly are you wanting to know: If it's "real"? ( It IS. ) Do we "like" it? ( I do. ) What make and model it is? ( I don't know by looking, but Swordfish will. ) What its worth? Be more specific.

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      #3
      It is an Eickhorn Field Marshal series Model Nr. 1693 - "Wrangel" ..

      Hard to tell from the image if it has a brass or aluminum hilt ..

      Looks to be in great condition ..

      All the best ..

      Mike W.

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        #4
        As my friends pointed out, she's legitimate. Pattern Nr. 1693 "Wrangel" variation of the Eickhorn field marshal series.

        The sabers hilt assembly appears to be brass based. I can't be certain from the photos, but it does appear to be so (I'm gleaning this from some of the small oxidizing area on the top of the backstrap-pommel assembly as well what can be seen on the grip ferule where the gilt is worn away). Interestingly, the saber is complete with what appears to be aluminum grip wire. 2 single strands encasing the springy type single coil in the middle. More often than not, when we encounter Eickhorn Heer sabers (Heer sabers in general..though not always) with aluminum grip wire, typically the hilt material will also be of an aluminum composite/alloy. In this case, the hilt assembly appears to be brass.

        Condition wise she appears quite nice. The saber appears complete (scabbard throat screws accounted for, etc.). I don't see any grip cracks from shrinkage or any celluloid chips. The sabers retains what appears to be roughly 85% of her original gold colored gilt which is a big plus for saber integrity. If we could confirm what the hilt material is, it would help explain why the saber retains much of her factory gilting.

        Otherwise, everything checks out. The Wehrmacht eagle faces to his right which is nearly exclusively seen on all of the various Eickhorn examples. Black paint on the scabbard seems to be in good shape. I also imagine he saber's hilt assembly is still nice and tight, which is also a nice plus for a decent conditoned saber.

        Well done. She should make a very nice, representative example of an Army officer/NCO saber for display.

        ** After reviewing the photos a bit closer, I would say she is definitely hilted in brass. Since the assembly retians most the gilt, I would assume it's been cared for over the decades, and stored properly...thankfully nobody got "creative" with the Brasso, Semichrome or other abrassive pollishing agents...and with conservative care it should remain this way for many more decades to come

        *** Be sure to be mindful of storage of the saber. Dirty, oily wooden scabbard runners can cause some blade damage is the saber is stored sheathed for prolonged periods of time. I typically store all my pieces outside of their scabbards. That being said, because I have limited space and fair number of sabers, some are infact hung on the wall, sheathed. With respect to the sabers I keep stored in the scabbard, I ensure the blade receives a coating of museum grade wax to ward off potential problems which could be caused by the wooden scabbard runners.

        Tom
        Last edited by SwordFish; 12-24-2009, 03:11 AM.

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          #5
          here is more pictures, thanks for your help!
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            #6
            Yep ...

            It's a nice conditioned brass hilt sword ..

            Tom,

            You must have been in the top five in your High School typing class ..

            Best ..

            Mike W.

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              #7
              Noble Wolf (Adolf)-
              As Mike explained, brass hilt undoubtedly. The photo says it all. I think we can assume this piece was cared for properly over the years. It likely saw little play from children, not chop-chop against the backyard tree, and must have stayed in a nice dark closet locked away for the past 4 decades. The remaining gold colored gilt is quite high. Perhaps a bit less than the original 85%, maybe in the 78%-80%. It would require a full inspection to accurately ascertain what % still remains. The sabbard would also require and inspection to likewise ascertain what degree of original black paint remains. I've seen many post-war repaints of scabbards, and thei one DOES NOT seem to suggest that. All in all a very nice Wrangel pattern saber. The Nr 1693 is a cornerstone of the Eickhorn field marshal saber series...a must for Eickhorn collectors.

              Mike..funny you mention the typing class. When I was a feshman in high school, we were required to take a typing keyboarding class (It wasn't called a keyboard back then). these were the bulky, non-electric typewriters. We had a couple IBM electric assist typewriters, but for the most part, old-school, finger smashing keys. At the time, we, the- the students, seethed over the class and compained about how "worthless" the class was. We assumed that the only reason the class existed was to give one of the assitant football coach a class to teach beside PE and coaching football. Today i'm thankful for that class.

              See...kids nead to listen. All 14 year olds think they know what time it is..they know best, in fact they are all omnicient and it's the adults who are clueless..right? Well, that what I thought anyway at 14, as do most kids that age. I like to say to the kids, "listen to me- do as I say, not as i've done"

              Tom

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                #8
                thanks for your help, what is a fair price?

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                  #9
                  Adolf-
                  You need to clarify your question. Fair asking price as you the seller? Or fair offer as you the buyer?

                  Ball park, garden variety price based on the current market conditions and the saber itself: $424-$450ish. Perhaps a bit more, or perhaps a bit less. Market is still in a state of flux though slightly on the upswing.

                  Tom

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                    #10
                    I am seller

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