Help with early SA dagger by Gottfried Muller

[nzef1940]

Greetings all

I picked up this SA dagger the other day, along with a Luftwaffe and Army officers daggers.

The SA dagger appears early and has a type of blued finish to the main body of the scabbard with what appears to be nickle plated parts at either end.

I would appreciate some information on the SA example, as to :

Likely year of manufacture, rarity of maker and a value estimate as it may go to the e-strand. Any other information about the dagger would also be appreciated.

Many thanks in advance

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Inside shot with flash.

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last image.

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Is the 'Fr' stamp on the crossguard a Gau' stamp for Frankfurt?

cheers

[nzef1940]

The throat or very top of the scabbard is made of brass or copper.

[helmuthunter]

IMO the Fr is for Gau or District Franken. Please note that i have been corrected on here before by a certain member saying that the term "Gau" or "district" is not correct. Im yet to see anyone else correct me or have a problem with this term for a area or district regarding the crossgaurd abreviations. regards Johnno.

[Larry Lipps]

I would have to question an anodized scabbard with plated fittings with an early dagger. It would indicate that they have not always been together.

[nzef1940]

Thanks guys, so what would be an o.k description for the e-stand, early dagger with possible later scabbard? Could someone please advise possible dates i.e late 30's etc, also a possible value range?

Many thanks.

[GaryMJ]

It's a mid 30s dagger with a late 30's RZM scabbard I would think. Also, worth mentioning is that the blade appears to be shortened/re-tipped. Perhaps measure the length to be sure, should be about 220mm long from tip to crossguard.

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