Need Identifying this Degen

[Gary Cain]

This is a garage sale pickup and I think it is Austrian but don't know for sure what it is. Any help is greatly appreciated!

Cheers
Gary

[Gary Cain]

The blade is triangular in cross section and is 34 inches long. The overall length is 39 inches.

This is a garage sale pickup and I think it is Austrian but don't know for sure what it is. Any help is greatly appreciated!

Cheers
Gary

[Gary Cain]

the blade used to be very deeply blued

The blade is triangular in cross section and is 34 inches long. The overall length is 39 inches.

[Gary Cain]

4 the grip is fairly small and is nicely gilded.

the blade used to be very deeply blued

[Gary Cain]

This is the only mark on the weapon. The eagle reminds me of the Austrian Hapsburg symbol but the writing almost looks cyrilic which would make it Romanov Dynasty.

Cheers
Gary

4 the grip is fairly small and is nicely gilded.

[Kilian]

The eagle definitely is Imperial Russian. As to date my guess would be first half of 19th century. Can´t tell you the maker´s name, as I can´t read Russian. Looks like a quality piece.

[Gary Cain]

Hi Killian,

Many thanks for helping me narrow the search down! You are right, this is a very nicely done weapon.


Cheers
Gary

The eagle definitely is Imperial Russian. As to date my guess would be first half of 19th century. Can´t tell you the maker´s name, as I can´t read Russian. Looks like a quality piece.

[Serge M.]

I guess there was no scabbard with it?

-wagner-

[Gary Cain]

Sadly no there was not.

Gary

I guess there was no scabbard with it?

-wagner-

[Theodor]

This is Russian. May be university student's sword from the 2nd half of the 19th c. /the not good picture below/ or a clerk's sword. The maker is Schaff & Sons, the three letters under the name are S.P.B. in Cyrillic /St. Petersburg/. The style of the marking makes it IMO 1880's or later.

[Theodor]

This is one of the several versions of Schaff's marking. Similar to yours, just the town name is written in longer version.

[Gary Cain]

Hi Theodor,

Many thanks for the translation! I think it is too good for a university students sword, or a clerk for that matter. They did not tend to gild their weapons as this one has been. The blade was originally a very deep blue which woul have really made the gold stand out, on German swords that is a comparitively uncommon feature.


Cheers
Gary

This is Russian. May be university student's sword from the 2nd half of the 19th c. /the not good picture below/ or a clerk's sword. The maker is Schaff & Sons, the three letters under the name are S.P.B. in Cyrillic /St. Petersburg/. The style of the marking makes it IMO 1880's or later.

[Serge M.]

I concur with Theodore.
Regarding the blue paneling it seems to appear as a more common feature on late Romanov (1880 - 1913) compared to German Imperial and certainly 3rd reich period. -JMO-

-wagner-

[Ed Sunday]

I will say the piece is an Imperial Russian court sword and is constructed very similarly to Imperial German pieces I have had in the past.

[Josh B.]

I will say the piece is an Imperial Russian court sword and is constructed very similarly to Imperial German pieces I have had in the past.

I have an inscribed Weimar piece that is very similar to the one shown above. Mine was made by WKC and is a "court sword". Sadly, mine lacks a scabbard as well.

Josh