RBN marked trench knife

[Nick_C]

Hello all,

This knife is offered as an original one, on another forum. I know these are faked a lot, so I need your help.
This knife has, as you can see on the pictures, a RBN number and a makers logo. There is also a RBN number on the scabbard.
I have my concerns about this knife. I've searched through this forum, and I found one thread concerning a RBN marked knife and scabbard. And this knife had only a RBN number and not a makers logo.
What about this one? Am I correct, that this is a fake?
Did RBN marked knives excist?

This is the thread with the RBN marked knife and scabbard:
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...%2F0878%2F0018

Can someone help me please?

Thanks!

Kind regards,
Nick

[LH 600]

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[Nick_C]

Hello,

Thank you for your reply.
The knife is not in my possession, but it is offered on another forum

Can you post some close up pictures of your RBN marked knife, please?
So a knife with RB number AND makerslogo is possible? Because I've read in another thread to stay away from these knives.
And what about the RB number on the scabbard? Could it be original?

More thoughts are welcome.

Kind regards,
Nick

[Nick_C]

Nobody?

[Reibert-Austria]

This knife´s supposted to be a "Kampfmesser der Luftwaffe" actually.
But imho this is a fake !

The grip-plates of the Origin knife were fastened with three rivets, not with only two ...

The "Reichsbetriebsnummer" was "founded" to hide the maker. On the other side of the blade´s marked the sign of Anton Wingen Jr. .....

"Kampfmesser der Luftwaffe" with exactly this "Reichsbetriebsnummer" are offered in Germany and Austria again, and again and were discovered as fakes !

Please, let this one pass away, OK ?

Best, Reibert

[Nick_C]

Hello Reibert,

Thank you very much for your reply
My suspicion is confirmed.
I'll let this one pass!

Kind regards,
Nick

[LH 600]

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[Glenn Barbaritz]

there is a thread on this type knife in the "archives" and Im pretty sure it was deemed a fake. it is a different thread than the one posted. Glenn

[LH 600]

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[Glenn Barbaritz]

true, as the saying goes, "as long as the possessor is happy with the piece." Glenn

[LH 600]

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[Reibert-Austria]

My opinion in this case is still the same. I wouldn´t own this knife !

Fellow collector´s, (experienced Collector´s of Fighting knife´s), told me, that in the 90ies several dealer´s sold this kind of Kampfmesser in great number´s as an "Depot finding".
But this knife´s have been made in Czechoslovakia after ´45.

The reason why, the RBNr. was introduced, was: secrecy.
Well known German maker´s-mark´s on Military equipment and weapon´s PLUS the RBNr. makes absolutely no sence and was forbidden.

I´m a user in the biggest German-speaking Militaria-Forum. There are also shown some of this knife´s. There is only a difference in the style of the wooden grip-plate´s.

The blade of the Kampfmesser supposted to be polished.

And, by the way:
I think, if nobody can recognize a copy as a copy, there´ll be only "Original´s", in our collection´s ...

You showed us a really easy recognizeable fake, but the faker´s are getting better and better ...
Maybe a missing rivet on a fake in the 80ies and 90ies was not really a big problem ...

Reibert

P.S.:

I never ever heard before, that the "RBNr.-key was found out.

And, by the way again: I saw a picture of a M43 field-cap with exactly the same RBNr. printed in ...

[LH 600]

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[Reibert-Austria]

I´m collecting bayonet´s.

But in my collection there are some Infanteriemesser 42, German and Austrian WWI Trench-knifes and a seldom seen Italian trench-knife.

And, by the way Bud, I don´t like the way you´re talking with me.

This is not a court, OK ?

I´ve been told Nick my opinion, not more !

I tried to explain, why the Kampfmesser in my eyes is a repro.
Obviously my English isn´t good enough for you to understand ...

If you don´t can life with that it´s OK for me.

Enjoy your own knife and have a nice day ...

Regards,

Reibert

[LH 600]

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