Dress bajonet,good??

[REMUS]

Hi,

I would like to purchase this dress bayonet,but I am new in collecting bayonets,are there any red flags on this one?
Any info you would like to share with me is much appreciated.

Is the troddel OK? For which unit does it stand?

Thanks,

regards,Jeremy

[Reibert-Austria]

Hi !

Nice Extraseitengewehr from Peter Daniel Krebs.

I assume, this is a so called "Faustriemen" for NCO´s, worn on the Extra-SG in WL-Units.

Reibert

[SCHUPO]

Jeremy,

The bayonet is OK from what I can see. It is a KS98 for enlisted ranks with the 25cm blade. The shorter KS98 with a 20cm blade was for NCOs and Officers. The knot is the Officer Portepee for bayonets or swords but it does not go on this bayonet.

[REMUS]

Thank you both for your reply

Reibert,what are WL units?

Schupo,what is the meaning of KS 98? So the troddel shoulld be on a short dress bayonet?

Is the frog ok for this type of bayonet?

Seller wants 155 euro for it,is that a fair price?

Thank you,

Jeremy

[Reibert-Austria]

"WL" means: Wehrmacht Luftwaffe.

This "Faustriemen", (not "Portepee" or "Troddel"), was used on bayonets in the WL also, but not in the "WH", (Wehrmacht Heer). There you can see this "Faustriemen" on swords and the "Troddel" on bayonets.
There´s a difference in the color´s, but in this case you have to ask the "specialists".

In my opinion, Euro 155,-- for the bayo, the Faustriemen and the Tragetasche is not a bargain ...

Regards, Reibert

[SCHUPO]

Reibert,

Actually, this knot is not a Faustriemen. Nor was it worn by Luftwaffe personnel. Luftwaffe enlisted men could wear a Faustriemen, but the Luftwaffe Faustriemen does not have a Stengel and the Quaste is colored wool and not aluminum wire. The Schieber rests directly on the Kranz and there is no aluminum stitching on the Band and the plain leather band is not green but grey in color for enlisted Luftwaffe personnel.

So, this is a Heer Portepee in kleines Format für Offiziere or Unteroffiziere mit Portepee that could be worn on either the short bayonet or the sword. It is not the correct knot for this long Kurtz Seitengewehr 98. If you will look at any standard Reibert manual you will find an illustration of these knots generally in the Anzug section.

[REMUS]

Hi Schupo,

Thanks again.

Is there a possibillity to show a pic with the diffirent terms for a pommel,like "stengel" and so,it is very difficult for me due to the language.Or is there somewere a good thread or forum were I can find every info on knots troddels faustriemen....
I really want to learn everything about it.

Thank you very much,
regards,Jeremy

[Adrian Stevenson]

Hi Jeremy, this might help with regards to bayonet part names:

http://www.donet.com/~mconrad/bcnbayo.htm


Cheers, Ade.

[REMUS]

Hi Jeremy, this might help with regards to bayonet part names:

http://www.donet.com/~mconrad/bcnbayo.htm


Cheers, Ade.

Thank you so much Ade,

is there a diffirence between"bolt","nut",and"stud"?Or are these just diffirent names for one part?
What are fingerguards?

Thanks,
kind regards,Jeremy

[jancz3rt]

Heya

To show you what fingerguards are, have a look here:



The bolt is the circular thing that you see (the nut and spring are kind of hidden away - intended to secure a rifle to the bayonet)

JAN

[Adrian Stevenson]

Thank you so much Ade,

is there a diffirence between"bolt","nut",and"stud"?Or are these just diffirent names for one part?
What are fingerguards?

Thanks,
kind regards,Jeremy

Hi Jeremy, yes, all different names for the same part.

The "finger guard" could also be called a "Crossguard".

Cheers, Ade.

[REMUS]

Thank you Ade and Jan,

Learned a lot today,it's just that the biggest problem is the terms of the bayonet parts,are called in a other language then mine,but a lot has cleared up today,so it will be easier for me to learn about bayonets in the forum language.

Thanks a lot,

kind regards,
Jeremy