My first ww II dagger

[Lt Simwil]

Hello,

I have some questions! How much are the hangers worth. And how can i clean the dagger "parts"? I tried with polish, but some parts still dirty!

Grtz..... William

[Adrian Stevenson]

Please lay off with the polish! Overcleaning is bad news.

The hangers would be worth about £150 to £200.

Cheers, Ade.

[Lt Simwil]

Please lay off with the polish! Overcleaning is bad news.

Hello,

Do you have perhaps suggestions for cleaning? How much approximately is my broken knife worth? I not going to sell it. I just want to know......

Grtz....William

[Lt Simwil]

Do you have perhaps suggestions for cleaning?

Are there some ways to clean the brass scabbard and the lions heads? I tried with polish but some details stay black and dirty! Is there perhaps an other method to clean?



Grtz....... William

[Daggerob]

Hello William:

It is difficult to place a value on these pieces.
It all depends on the condition of the parts and who wants/needs them.
Johnson is about the biggest parts dealer in the hobby.
You can search his website at....

http://johnsonreferencebooks.com/searchmain.html

....to get a rough idea, but bear in mind that many of the pieces that he has listed are in Mint/Unissued condition.

As near as I can tell based on a quick search it would go something like this.
The VERY ROUGHLY APPROXIMATE value in US Dollars would be...

Scabbard - $100 (But yours is dented....so?)
Pommel - $ 45
Crossguard - $125 (But yours is missing the release button....so?)
Grip/if plastic - $ 95 (Yours is missing the wire by the way)
Grip/if ivory - $600 (Which I doubt)

....but none of this can be accurately determined without a "Hands On" inspection.
Maybe now you can see why noboby has been eagar to answer your "How much is it worth" question.
It's difficult enough to value a COMPLETE dagger from images alone.
Part values are even MORE relative.

In reference to cleaning, most dagger collectors prefer uncleaned pieces.
Careful blade cleaning ONLY is generally accepted, but many feel that overall cleaning of a dagger will diminish its value.
(That's why you're not getting many cleaning tips because most of us won't do it.)

I hope that this is helpful to you.

[Lt Simwil]

I hope that this is helpful to you.

Thanx Robert for your information. It has been very helpfull.

Many thanx.........

Grtz... William

[SwordFish]

As stated, go easy on the cleaning. It's easy to ruin a dagger or other edged weapon. Great example are edged weapons with crossgraining on the blade (i.e.- Armys, SA, SS's, etc.). You don't want to remove this stuff. It will tremendously hurt both the value and the overall aesthetic. Keep in mind, just because you buy a part, there is no guarantee that it will fit properly. Many of these daggers have fitted parts....very similiar to a firearm. You may end up needing a Dremmel tool to work out some of the kinks.

Best of luck. Check all the different forums for cleaning and maintenance tips. Some very good references to use from alot of folks with alot of experience.

[Larry Lipps]

It may well have been worth more uncleaned.

[Lt Simwil]

It may well have been worth more uncleaned.

Well i'm not his first owner. The person before has cleaned it often with polish. A shame, i know! I bought the "parts dagger" in the war museum in bastogne (belgium). They have no navy stuff so they sell, the "parts dagger" to me. And it was broken.

I found a new dagger. This one is comlete. i do not have him yet, but i keep you posted.

grtz William

[Lt Simwil]

Hello,

I'm back again...

[Daggerob]

Hello,

I'm back again...

Welcome back William.
It is good to hear from you again.
Is there anything new to report?

[Mr.Jerry D]

It WAS a real WWII dagger.
I'm sorry to tell you this but now it is a collection of WWII dagger parts.
The blade is the "Heart" of any dagger.
That is what we collect, "Edged Weapons".
If the blade is bad then the dagger will never amount to very much.

Um, yeah right...
That's why the big boys buy broken daggers & dagger parts, but none of them sell broken daggers right?

While it is certainly Nice to find an untouched dagger, if a blade is properly replaced with the right maker and proper blade, there is no way to tell the difference.

But if one is repalced with the wrong maker it will stand out like sore thumb.

[Daggerob]

It WAS a real WWII dagger.
I'm sorry to tell you this but now it is a collection of WWII dagger parts.

The blade is the "Heart" of any dagger.
That is what we collect, "Edged Weapons".
If the blade is bad then the dagger will never amount to very much.

You could replace the blade, but it will always be a "Parts Dagger".
Parts daggers have a much lower value to collectors than all original pieces.

There may be good news though.
Do those hangers have solid brass fittings, or are they brass plated aluminum?
If they are fitted with solid brass they're probably worth more than the dagger.

Just for the record, this is the COMPLETE quote of what I posted.
I don't believe that I was misleading anyone.

[SwordFish]

Hopefully the parts don't end up on eBay, paired with a better blade.

In regards to cleaning, be very mindful of how you clean it. Cleaning a dagger can have significant consequences on the piece. I don't clean my daggers only preserve them....generally speaking. I limit my cleaning to a specific subcategory of edged weapons and that's about it. Food for thought. There are ways to safely clean, but to the unitiated, I tell 'em "leave them alone".

[Mr.Jerry D]

I didn't mean to imply anything like that, i was just making a point. Getting a blade for a dagger is an easy fix.

I am just put off by dagger purists who flock to the churches of the Big Guys that think that every dagger that have was taken from the German factory floor in the mint-mint condition it is now in.