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    Imperial German artillery sword

    Hello to everybody. I recently got interesting sword. For me it look like it Imperial Bavarian artillery sword. Please tell me if I'm right or wrong and any additional information about this sword will be appreciated.
    Thank you in advance.
    P.s. I try to make a picture of engravings in different light conditions. Engraving is the same on both sides. DSC_1694.JPG DSC_1698.JPG DSC_1707.JPG DSC_1670.JPG DSC_1675.JPG DSC_1678.JPG DSC_1680.JPG DSC_1686.JPG DSC_1685.JPG DSC_1687.JPG

    #2
    Looks like a dress sabre, most real early 19.cntr.

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      #3
      Same opinion, Bavarian mid 19th century with the cypher of Maximillian II Joesph 1848-1864. FP

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        #4
        I rather seem to recognize the cypher of Maximilian IV Joseph as Elector of Bavaria, which would date this sword between 1799 and 1806.
        It's a NCO artillery sword, I believe, very well preserved and rare.

        Best regards,

        Victorman

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          #5
          Originally posted by Victorman View Post
          I rather seem to recognize the cypher of Maximilian IV Joseph as Elector of Bavaria, which would date this sword between 1799 and 1806.
          It's a NCO artillery sword, I believe, very well preserved and rare.

          Best regards,
          Victorman
          While a specialist in Bavaria from that period may have proof that I'm wrong, and Prussia is where most of my interests are stronger, I have to respectfully disagree having a difference of opinion. Not imaged at this moment in time, I have a sword with the cypher of Charles Theodore, Elector of Bavaria (1724 - 1799) that also has the motto (if I'm remembering it correctly) that says "Long Live the Father of the Fatherland" (in German). But it's engraved not etched, similar to the earlier Austrian sword posted below. With most Napoleonic era officer's swords also using engraving and possibly also being fire blued and gilt over the engravings depending on when and where they came from (and price/cost etc.). The manufacturing standard here, from what I can see, most likely IMO a private purchase by an officer in the 19th century after the blued and gilt blades were discontinued, and etching became the preferred method of decoration. Best Regards, Fred
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            #6
            Fred is certainly correct, the crown on the upper sabre is kings crown, so could be not pre 1806 as the Maximilian I. was as king introduced, anyway the korb guard design is typical for 30ies of 19.ctr, same as the curving of handle, so i assume Maximilian II post 1848 would be the most real choice, the blade is etched even the name of Schwerdtfeger is engraved probably.

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              #7
              Which royal cypher do you recognize on the sword?

              1st is : Maximilian IV Joseph: 1799- 1806

              2nd is : Maximillian II Emanuel (NOT Joseph!) 1848-1864
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                #8
                King of Bayern is post 1806 only "Kurfürst Maximilian IV. Joseph von Bayern – seit 1799 Herrscher über Kurbayern – nahm am 1. Januar 1806 offiziell den Titel „König Maximilian I. von Bayern“ an." 1806-1825
                https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6nigreich_Bayern
                You pictured there prince electoral crowns not a kings crown that is on blade etched, i assume both used as Monogram only M, possible differences are II by second name.
                Last edited by AndyB; 08-04-2020, 01:08 PM.

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                  #9
                  Thank you everybody for the information!

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